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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #240 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 10:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 4:31pm:
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Today, you are proposing something very similar.


Brian why is it that every time I ask you a simple question you start making stuff up about me.


Perhaps the point is, while your questions may appear innocuous, there is deep, underlying attitudes behind it which you don't like being put on display?

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I mean a complete fabrication that has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Do you think I am someone else from your glorious history of defending all that is right on internet forums? Here I am talking about discrimination and you think I am the Nazi?


I believe your attitudes lead to the same results, FD.  If you don't like what I've said, refute it but changing your tune.  Stop attacking Muslims and their religion at every turn, in multiple threads and forums...   Roll Eyes

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Your attempt to compare apples and oranges (again) is a poor effort, grasping at straws to try and justify your discrimination and bigotry towards everything Muslim.


What am I trying to compare? You are the only one making a comparison. This is all I asked: Brian, if the market decided on discrimination in the workplace, would you still be indifferent?


If you knew your Adam Smith, you'd know the "market" never discriminates, FD, unless there is an underlying attitude which promotes discrimination.  Of course I would not be indifferent to that attitude, would you welcome it though?   Roll Eyes

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And before you protest that is not your or any of the other bigots that you host here's intentions, just think about what you say and look at it from the perspective of Muslims.


Yes Brian I can understand why Muslims (and their limp-wristed apologists) would be upset by me always talking about freedom, democracy, human rights etc rather than respecting a Muslim's right to act like a 7th century Arab warlord.


You talk about "freedom, democracy, human rights," for everybody but Muslims, FD.  Do not Muslims have rights to freedom from persecution, freedom of speech and expression and religion?  Do not Muslims have the right to partake in our democracy and human rights?   Yet you seem hell bent on persecuting them, denying them freedom of speech, expression and religion...   Roll Eyes

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You must heckle and conjole and criticise them at every turn, for everything that one Muslim may have done thousands of kilometres and over a thousand years ago.


If Muslims would leave Muhammed in the 7th century, I'm sure everyone else would be more than happy to also.


Most Muslims look to him in the same way that most Christians look to Christ and most Buddhists to Buddha - as an inspiration and a moral guide.  You, like the fundamentalists look to him as being a literal inspiration, FD.

Tell me, what difference is there between your interpretation of the Q'ran and that of a Takfiri Islamist?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #241 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:08am
 
You know what religious descrimination is? Imams. Why FD can’t apply to get a car and a salary and a decent rectory in return for reciting a few prayers or whatever is a disgrace. There should be real competition in the imam labour market, not the protectionist Muslim racket we have today.

Typical.
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Reply #242 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:12am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:08am:
You know what religious descrimination is? Imams. Why FD can’t apply to get a car and a salary and a decent rectory in return for reciting a few prayers or whatever is a disgrace. There should be real competition in the imam labour market, not the protectionist Muslim racket we have today.

Typical.


I'd have thought the Catholic Church's priests were running quite a closed shop as well.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #243 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 7:37am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:08am:
You know what religious descrimination is? Imams. Why FD can’t apply to get a car and a salary and a decent rectory in return for reciting a few prayers or whatever is a disgrace. There should be real competition in the imam labour market, not the protectionist Muslim racket we have today.

Typical.


Indeed!  Grin Grin
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #244 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 8:40am
 
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You know what religious descrimination is? Imams.


Like I already pointed out Karnal, this is not a mosque we are talking about. It is a slaughterhouse.

Brian:

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Perhaps the point is, while your questions may appear innocuous, there is deep, underlying attitudes behind it which you don't like being put on display?


If I didn't like them being put on display why would I go to the trouble of creating a website to put them on display?

Why is it so hard for you to stick to what people actually say rather than inventing elaborate fantasies to explain how they could possibly disagree with you?

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I believe your attitudes lead to the same results, FD.  If you don't like what I've said, refute it but changing your tune.


I refute it by telling you that you are wrong and you have no clue what you are talking about. I am not going to cease standing up for freedom, democracy, human rights etc so I don't get called a Nazi on internet forums.

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If you knew your Adam Smith, you'd know the "market" never discriminates, FD, unless there is an underlying attitude which promotes discrimination.


Like, only a Muslims should be allowed to fulfill a certain role? Islam is discriminatory by nature. It legislates and institutionalises discrimination. You could never bring yourself to criticise Muslims who openly promoted discrimination, only when people criticise discrimination.

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Of course I would not be indifferent to that attitude, would you welcome it though?


You just finished explaining that you are indifferent to it. Perhaps it was simple too subtle for you.

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You talk about "freedom, democracy, human rights," for everybody but Muslims, FD.


Wrong again Brian. You argument is literally an endless stream of fabrications.
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Reply #245 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:12am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:08am:
You know what religious descrimination is? Imams. Why FD can’t apply to get a car and a salary and a decent rectory in return for reciting a few prayers or whatever is a disgrace. There should be real competition in the imam labour market, not the protectionist Muslim racket we have today.

Typical.


I'd have thought the Catholic Church's priests were running quite a closed shop as well.   Roll Eyes


Goddamned right. Why FD can't be given a church and a flock is anyone's business. Discrimination, innit.
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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #246 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 4:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 8:40am:
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You know what religious descrimination is? Imams.


Like I already pointed out Karnal, this is not a mosque we are talking about. It is a slaughterhouse.



Now now, FD, those Musel prayer halls might get a little raucous at times, but I do feel calling them slaughterhouses is going a little too far.

Live and let live, eh?
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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #247 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 10:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:12am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 12:08am:
You know what religious descrimination is? Imams. Why FD can’t apply to get a car and a salary and a decent rectory in return for reciting a few prayers or whatever is a disgrace. There should be real competition in the imam labour market, not the protectionist Muslim racket we have today.

Typical.


I'd have thought the Catholic Church's priests were running quite a closed shop as well.   Roll Eyes


Goddamned right. Why FD can't be given a church and a flock is anyone's business. Discrimination, innit.


Marketplace decides.  What FD is offering doesn't attract enough customers it seems.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #248 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:22pm
 
Veterinary and animal rights groups are onto this:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394494714
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