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Reply #60 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:22pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You will find that when used in the english language the word halal is only ever used to refer to food. Your ridicule of Soren for using this term correctly is misplaced.

Um no. As disproven by the wiki article I linked. The word is specific to islamic law. What you are proposing is "anglosising" (if you like) islamic law, and making it into something that it is not. It is a muslim word, and it is a muslim concept - muslims get to define what it means - not non-muslim English speakers.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #62 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You will find that when used in the english language the word halal is only ever used to refer to food. Your ridicule of Soren for using this term correctly is misplaced.

Um no. As disproven by the wiki article I linked. The word is specific to islamic law. What you are proposing is "anglosising" (if you like) islamic law, and making it into something that it is not. It is a muslim word, and it is a muslim concept - muslims get to define what it means - not non-muslim English speakers.

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #63 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:34pm

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You will find that when used in the english language the word halal is only ever used to refer to food. Your ridicule of Soren for using this term correctly is misplaced.

Um no. As disproven by the wiki article I linked. The word is specific to islamic law. What you are proposing is "anglosising" (if you like) islamic law, and making it into something that it is not. It is a muslim word, and it is a muslim concept - muslims get to define what it means - not non-muslim English speakers.

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

My parents went to Islam, and all they brought me back was this t-shirt:

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #64 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #65 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

This thread is not about Muslims that I can or cannot show you. It is about boycotting anything that is halal-certified.

I don't give a bugger about what is halal and what isn't. I am calling for, with Pat Condell, for the boycotting of anything that is halal certified.
I didn't actually take you for one of the usual Muslim thickos but you seem to insist...

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #66 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You will find that when used in the english language the word halal is only ever used to refer to food. Your ridicule of Soren for using this term correctly is misplaced.

Um no. As disproven by the wiki article I linked. The word is specific to islamic law. What you are proposing is "anglosising" (if you like) islamic law, and making it into something that it is not. It is a muslim word, and it is a muslim concept - muslims get to define what it means - not non-muslim English speakers.

What are you tallking about? Muslim isnt a language, its a religion. Secondly the word is commonly used by non Arabic Muslims in a number of non Arabic languages (including English) and relates only to food in all of them.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #67 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #68 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:50pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #69 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:51pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #70 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:53pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #71 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:54pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #72 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:56pm

ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Which Muslims? I thought there was a huge diversity of Muslim views. Who are you speaking for? Why is your view to be taken seriously as the 'Muslim' view? Are you a scholar (certified)? Do you speak classical Arabic? Have you memorised the Koran?

Are you halal certified?

Soren show me a single muslim who considers "halal" to mean only what food is permitted.

Have you ever seen the word before any other word but "food" ? You wont see it used in any other ciontext in any Muslim country either.

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Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric
Reply #73 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 10:03pm

All those products contain food. And it is obviously only being used as a slogan for a motor vehicle, I doubt the Shariah council had a meeting and decided that particular motor car rental business was Halal. Nice try though. The problem is Greggary, unlike yourself I have travelled considerably in many Muslim countries.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137851 Gender:	Re: Boycott halal - it's barbaric Reply #74 - Aug 19^th, 2013 at 10:04pm ian wrote on Aug 19^th, 2013 at 10:03pm: All those products contain food.
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