Australian Politics Forum - Where is this budget emergency

salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Where is this budget emergency Reply #30 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:50pm John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am: and all the other dickheads Now then Wild One you shouldn't resort to nastiness. You have been building up a large following here at OP but I fear you've just lost a lot of fans. Lift your game.
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Reply #31 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:07pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:45pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 2:33pm:

BAWHAHAHAHAH Grin

You could have deleted the 1st 2 portions of our exchange but rather chose to omit salient points disputing your assertions.

The question becomes was it conscious or sub conscious?

you assume that I did anything beyond look for a para of old text and delete it without any reference to the content.

try not to be a conspiracy theorist. its a bad fit.

I thought the laughing heads would have given away the fact it was a joke???

http://mitadmissions.org/images/mit-blogs/why_so_serious_cat-12947.jpg

hard to tell when most posters are posting absolute lunacy and lies and then wonder why no one believes them.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #32 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:22pm

I've never really understood how funding pink batts made the government responsible for the accidental deaths of independent contractors installing them.

Governments fund all sorts of things - wars, prisons, emergency services, pharmaceuticals. How many people have overdosed on drugs funded under the PBS?

Explain that one, leftards.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96614	Re: Where is this budget emergency Reply #33 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm School halls. Who's against school halls? According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked. People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news. School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.
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Reply #34 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:27pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:22pm:

I've never really understood how funding pink batts made the government responsible for the accidental deaths of independent contractors installing them.

Governments fund all sorts of things - wars, prisons, emergency services, pharmaceuticals. How many people have overdosed on drugs funded under the PBS?

Explain that one, leftards.

ive never understood why of all the industries in Australia rudd chose insulation. were there not 100 other industries that could have shared in the cash which would have stimulated the economy just as well, yet not overdone it so badly?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96614	Re: Where is this budget emergency Reply #35 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:28pm Anything else? Oh, yes. Private health rebates. How dare the government not pay people out for choosing private health insurance over state-funded Medicare? The dirty bastards.
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Reply #36 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

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Reply #37 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:22pm:

I've never really understood how funding pink batts made the government responsible for the accidental deaths of independent contractors installing them.

Governments fund all sorts of things - wars, prisons, emergency services, pharmaceuticals. How many people have overdosed on drugs funded under the PBS?

Explain that one, leftards.

ive never understood why of all the industries in Australia rudd chose insulation. were there not 100 other industries that could have shared in the cash which would have stimulated the economy just as well, yet not overdone it so badly?

Perhaps. Who's to blame though - the government who funds it, or the people who clamoured to get them in their homes?

I believe Andrei had them put in his rental property. Nice pink ones. All gratis, of course.

Andrei hates the government for that one. Mind you, he votes in the UK.

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Reply #38 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

What do you think they should have built instead? Westfield shopping centres?

The KRudd Memorial Westfields in Fishwick, ACT. That'll go down in history.

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Reply #39 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:36pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:22pm:

I've never really understood how funding pink batts made the government responsible for the accidental deaths of independent contractors installing them.

Governments fund all sorts of things - wars, prisons, emergency services, pharmaceuticals. How many people have overdosed on drugs funded under the PBS?

Explain that one, leftards.

ive never understood why of all the industries in Australia rudd chose insulation. were there not 100 other industries that could have shared in the cash which would have stimulated the economy just as well, yet not overdone it so badly?

Perhaps. Who's to blame though - the government who funds it, or the people who clamoured to get them in their homes?

I believe Andrei had them put in his rental property. Nice pink ones. All gratis, of course.

Andrei hates the government for that one. Mind you, he votes in the UK.

again... few people say no to free stuff. That doesn't mean it was right. The stimulus - which apparently we needed long term - could have fixed the bruce highway. It could have built water infrastructure like Howard contracted, then Rudd cancelled and never visited again. all that money and we have so little to show for it. BER is fine for some but hear the stories of people trying to get their own homes built at normal prices while builders were off building school halls at huge profit.

other stimulus ideas:

Taking the GST off cars and other charges to stimulate sales
reducing company tax for a year
eliminate payroll tax for a year to save jobs
Build dams for struggling farming communities
Fix roads

but what did we get??? pink friggin batts and school halls. for $200B I expected a hell of a lot more.

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Reply #40 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:37pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

What do you think they should have built instead? Westfield shopping centres?

The KRudd Memorial Westfields in Fishwick, ACT. That'll go down in history.

apart from the silliness of the westfield shopping centre, at least the people who paid for it (us) would get to use it!!!

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Reply #41 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 6:18pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

What do you think they should have built instead? Westfield shopping centres?

The KRudd Memorial Westfields in Fishwick, ACT. That'll go down in history.

apart from the silliness of the westfield shopping centre, at least the people who paid for it (us) would get to use it!!!

To spend it on the Bruce Highway puts the money in the hands of a select few ... resulting in very little stimulating for the broader majority of the country. Spending it on someone thing like home insulation spreads small amounts all over the country.

Afterall, The point was not to spend the money but to stimulate the economy.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #42 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 8:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:22pm:

I've never really understood how funding pink batts made the government responsible for the accidental deaths of independent contractors installing them.

Governments fund all sorts of things - wars, prisons, emergency services, pharmaceuticals. How many people have overdosed on drugs funded under the PBS?

Explain that one, leftards.

ive never understood why of all the industries in Australia rudd chose insulation. were there not 100 other industries that could have shared in the cash which would have stimulated the economy just as well, yet not overdone it so badly?

Perhaps. Who's to blame though - the government who funds it, or the people who clamoured to get them in their homes?

I believe Andrei had them put in his rental property. Nice pink ones. All gratis, of course.

Andrei hates the government for that one. Mind you, he votes in the UK.

again... few people say no to free stuff. That doesn't mean it was right. The stimulus - which apparently we needed long term - could have fixed the bruce highway. It could have built water infrastructure like Howard contracted, then Rudd cancelled and never visited again. all that money and we have so little to show for it. BER is fine for some but hear the stories of people trying to get their own homes built at normal prices while builders were off building school halls at huge profit.

other stimulus ideas:

Taking the GST off cars and other charges to stimulate sales
reducing company tax for a year
eliminate payroll tax for a year to save jobs
Build dams for struggling farming communities
Fix roads

but what did we get??? pink friggin batts and school halls. for $200B I expected a hell of a lot more.

Longy, if I remember rightly, you opposed each and every stimulus measure during the GFC. You would have opposed all those things you mention above, and God forbid anyone building a road or getting no payroll tax getting killed on the job.

You’d have blamed the government no matter what.

Mind you, if it was a Howard government...

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Reply #43 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:58pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 6:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

What do you think they should have built instead? Westfield shopping centres?

The KRudd Memorial Westfields in Fishwick, ACT. That'll go down in history.

apart from the silliness of the westfield shopping centre, at least the people who paid for it (us) would get to use it!!!

To spend it on the Bruce Highway puts the money in the hands of a select few ... .

That’s right. Why on earth should I pay for the Bruce Highway? I don’t even know where it is.

There are homeless Australians, sick Australians on hospital waiting lists, and here we are propping up some useless, distant road? Whatever happened to looking after our own kind?

At least spend it on the Great Western Highway.

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Reply #44 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

School halls. Who's against school halls?

According to one survey, less than 2% of the schools asked.

People have been whingeing about demountables and lack of school infrastructure for years. A GFC happens, a government does something, and it's bad news.

School halls. What a lot of utter rotters.

you think schools are going to complain about being given free stuff? even stuff they either don't need or isn't very useful? of course not. any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest.

The schools put in submission are requested what they needed.

any assessment of the value for money or need for the BER would need to be done by someone other than schools or builders or other group not with a conflict of interest

You mean that Peter Costello should not be auditing the Queensland finances and that the opposition policy funding should be audited by an independent body and not by their mates ????

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