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Where is this budget emergency
Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am

There are 4 good articles about the Australia's economy and the good shape it is in compare to the rest of the world.

So where is this budget emergency that The one who wants to be Prime minister and all the other dickheads from the liberal/national party coalition are saying

Don't worry there is more to come.

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Reply #2 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:01am

Kat wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:45am:

Those four links ought to me mandatory reading for all Coalition supporters.

But I fear you've cast pearls before swine, as they'll simply refuse to read them.

And yes, I did read them (but not all the comments).

Kat, if they do read them they will say it is all bullshyte and believe what Murdoch says. They can't think for themselves

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Reply #3 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:14am

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:01am:

Kat wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:45am:

Those four links ought to me mandatory reading for all Coalition supporters.

But I fear you've cast pearls before swine, as they'll simply refuse to read them.

And yes, I did read them (but not all the comments).

Kat, if they do read them they will say it is all bullshyte and believe what Murdoch says. They can't think for themselves

Yes, very sad.

And it's the country which will suffer, un-necessarily.

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Reply #4 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am:

There are 4 good articles about the Australia's economy and the good shape it is in compare to the rest of the world.

So where is this budget emergency that The one who wants to be Prime minister and all the other dickheads from the liberal/national party coalition are saying

We really must talk about all these lies

WELL NUMBER ONE IT IS THE INDEPENDENT...AND WHO IS ALAN AUSTIN?...A NOBODY JUST LIKE THE INDEPENDENT A LABOR RAG...OPK I KNOW LEFTIES LOVE IT..

SO WHAT LIES DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD
We really must talk about the pink batts

SO WHY WAS IT CANCELLED?????????????????
We really must talk about this debt nonsense

SO PERHAPS THE INDEPENDENT CAN SHOW US WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO SHOW FOR THIS MASSIVE DEBT THAT MR AUSTIN DOESNT FIND A PROBLEM WITH AS IT TOOK THE LIBS 10 YEARS TO PAY OFF ONE A LOT LESS THAN THIS...

AND HE DOESNT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT......DUH!!!
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We really must talk about what actually did save Australia

Don't worry there is more to come.

YES LETS TALK ABOUT WHAT SAVED AUSTRALIA.......CHINA.

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Reply #5 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:19am

cods wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am:

AND WHO IS ALAN AUSTIN?

Do a bit of research cods and you would find out who Alan Austin is.

cods wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am:

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD

Why don't you put the rest of the quote in or don't that fit in with your point of view. In my book anyone that doesn't put the FULL quote in is lying

cods wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am:

WELL NUMBER ONE IT IS THE INDEPENDENT...

What is wrong with the Independent Australia site Don't you like reading or hearing another point of view. Do you just like being like a sheep and do what Murdoch tells you can't you think for yourself.

cods wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am:

SO PERHAPS THE INDEPENDENT CAN SHOW US WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO SHOW FOR THIS MASSIVE DEBT THAT MR AUSTIN DOESNT FIND A PROBLEM WITH AS IT TOOK THE LIBS 10 YEARS TO PAY OFF ONE A LOT LESS THAN THIS...

AND HE DOESNT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT......DUH!!!

For a start how about the $30.00 p/w increase that the pensioners got, Lets just say that you got the increase back in the middle of 2008 now it is 2013 so you have had it for 5 years and that works out to $7,800 increase for each pensioners, and how about all the infrastructure that is getting built

cods wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:46am:

YES LETS TALK ABOUT WHAT SAVED AUSTRALIA.......CHINA.

If you read the last article you would see that it wasn't China that saved Australia from the GFC

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Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

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Reply #7 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:54am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

So other than disparaging the publisher & authors, are you disputing any of the facts offered?

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Reply #8 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

Here is the guy that says the Newspoll and News Limited are not biased.

Did Bob Ellis write any of those article I don't know why you brought him into the post the only reason I can see that you brought him in is that you can't say anything about the articles, and give me a link or something that says that the ALP have distanced themselves from him

Have you ever try to post a comment on Independent Australia site and if you haven't how do you know that they are rejected

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Reply #9 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:08pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:54am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

So other than disparaging the publisher & authors, are you disputing any of the facts offered?

yes and easily so. this website publishes nonsense and expects simpletons to simply swallow it. And there is no shortage of simpletons ready to do so. Please don't tell me that you are one of them.

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Reply #10 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

Here is the guy that says the Newspoll and News Limited are not biased.

Did Bob Ellis write any of those article I don't know why you brought him into the post the only reason I can see that you brought him in is that you can't say anything about the articles, and give me a link or something that says that the ALP have distanced themselves from him

Have you ever try to post a comment on Independent Australia site and if you haven't how do you know that they are rejected

I have tried several times to get a comment posted. But if you want to believe that literally 100% of respondents think everything that is written is pure gold then you have no idea....

Bob Ellis is the founder of the site and regular writer.

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Reply #11 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:13pm

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

Here is the guy that says the Newspoll and News Limited are not biased.

Did Bob Ellis write any of those article I don't know why you brought him into the post the only reason I can see that you brought him in is that you can't say anything about the articles, and give me a link or something that says that the ALP have distanced themselves from him

Have you ever try to post a comment on Independent Australia site and if you haven't how do you know that they are rejected

I stand by th4e claim that newspoll is not biased. If that were so their stellar accuracy compared to actual election would not exist.

This is nothing more than shooting the messenger.

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Reply #12 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:19pm

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am:

There are 4 good articles about the Australia's economy and the good shape it is in compare to the rest of the world.

So where is this budget emergency that The one who wants to be Prime minister and all the other dickheads from the liberal/national party coalition are saying

Don't worry there is more to come.

let's look at the first ludicrously stupid article. I shall quote.

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The first lie is that the economy is weaker now than it was when Labor took office.

hmmm. is there ANYONE willing to agree that the economy now is strongr than it was in 2007? Anyone??? thought not.

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The third is that Australia’s outstanding progress through the current global financial crisis (GFC) is due to pre-existing factors.

once again, is there anyone at all willing to say that the condition of the economy at the start of the GFC in 2008 was irrelevant to the next couple years? Are there actually people who think that only what happens today affects today?

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And the fourth – so often repeated that it seems ingrained in the national psyche – is that the Coalition is better at managing the economy than the ALP.

the above is called 'a lie'. it is at best a subjective opinion and therefore incapable of being a lie. secondly, there is a very strong argument that it is true.

so this is the ludicrous nonsense you want everyone to take note of??

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Reply #13 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:19pm:

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am:

There are 4 good articles about the Australia's economy and the good shape it is in compare to the rest of the world.

So where is this budget emergency that The one who wants to be Prime minister and all the other dickheads from the liberal/national party coalition are saying

Don't worry there is more to come.

let's look at the first ludicrously stupid article. I shall quote.

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The first lie is that the economy is weaker now than it was when Labor took office.

hmmm. is there ANYONE willing to agree that the economy now is strongr than it was in 2007? Anyone??? thought not.

obviously the writer of the article ... much better qualified than Bolt isn't he?

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The third is that Australia’s outstanding progress through the current global financial crisis (GFC) is due to pre-existing factors.

once again, is there anyone at all willing to say that the condition of the economy at the start of the GFC in 2008 was irrelevant to the next couple years? Are there actually people who think that only what happens today affects today?

once again, the writer of the article .... or do you think you are better qualified?

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And the fourth – so often repeated that it seems ingrained in the national psyche – is that the Coalition is better at managing the economy than the ALP.

the above is called 'a lie'. it is at best a subjective opinion and therefore incapable of being a lie. secondly, there is a very strong argument that it is true.

your answer is subjective and a lie ....

so this is the ludicrous nonsense you want everyone to take note of??

yep

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Reply #14 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

I have tried several times to get a comment posted. But if you want to believe that literally 100% of respondents think everything that is written is pure gold then you have no idea....

Bob Ellis is the founder of the site and regular writer.

Why do you keep lying longy If you have ever been on Independent Australia site you would see that Bob Ellis is not the founder and owner of the site

here is a bit about Independent Australia site
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Finally, news has a conscience.
Independent Australia is a progressive journal focusing on politics, democracy, the environment, Australian history and Australian identity. It contains news and opinion from Australia and around the world.

Managing editor David Donovan

IA supports quality investigative journalism, as well as citizen journalism and a diversity of voices. It believes Australians are short-changed by the mass media — and so it dedicates itself to seeking out the truth and informing the public.

Independent Australia believes in a fully and truly independent Australia, a nation that determines its own future, a nation that protects its citizens, its environment and its future. A country that is fair and free.

IA is also opposed to partisan politics and supports Independent politicians. (Read more about this here.)

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:13pm:

John S wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 12:04pm:

[quote author=longweekend58 link=1377041479/6#6 date=1377048483]what is wrong with independentaustralia??? are you serious? it is a blatantly pro-labor site with 100% anti-liberal articles. it doesn't even pretend to be unbiased. Read the comments and what do you see? yes that's right. 100% virulently anti-abbot posts. Ever tried to get a comment published there? they are always rejected unless they are abbott attacking, labor supporting drivel.

most of the articles are grossly inaccurate and the rest show bias that is embarrassingly obvious.

if you want to make your point you need to do so with articles that at least make an attempt to not be biased. The author - Bob Ellis - is so biased and so crazy hat even the ALP have distanced themselves from him.

Here is the guy that says the Newspoll and News Limited are not biased.

Did Bob Ellis write any of those article I don't know why you brought him into the post the only reason I can see that you brought him in is that you can't say anything about the articles, and give me a link or something that says that the ALP have distanced themselves from him

Have you ever try to post a comment on Independent Australia site and if you haven't how do you know that they are rejected

I stand by th4e claim that newspoll is not biased. If that were so their stellar accuracy compared to actual election would not exist.

This is nothing more than shooting the messenger.

I notice that you never said anything about News Limited been biased. So how can 1 be biased and the other 1 not when they are both owned by the same person

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