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Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am

Not that it will ever wash away his heinous sin of supporting Gillard for three years.

What he said was that the parental leave shemes of both parties (we musn't say paid maternity leave, that would be sexist, one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century) are examples of a welfare system gone mad.
We've reached a point where people no longer believe they have any responsibility to look after themselves but that the government should do it.
He went on to say that, as an economy, we can't afford to go further & further down this track, we can't fund it.
I agree with him 100%.

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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:07am

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am:

Not that it will ever wash away his heinous sin of supporting Gillard for three years.

What he said was that the parental leave shemes of both parties (we musn't say paid maternity leave, that would be sexist, one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century) are examples of a welfare system gone mad.
We've reached a point where people no longer believe they have any responsibility to look after themselves but that the government should do it.
He went on to say that, as an economy, we can't afford to go further & further down this track, we can't fund it.
I agree with him 100%.

yet he voted for labor's scheme.

the man is just one massive hypocrite.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:22am Yet its OK by him to have a blank check bogus refugee program, give me break, give the dough to sheilas that have babies not fake reffos that come here to retire on centrelink.
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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:39am

bogarde73

Fair enough, but he has said something sensible before "I am stepping down" Grin

I am always opposed to social engineering exercises, imposing such policies will just make employment and promotions more problematic for women, the complete opposite of the intended purpose of such policies.

You can't force employers to be nice people.

In fact such policies might do the opposite.

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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #4 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:45am

Innocent bystander wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:22am:

Yet its OK by him to have a blank check bogus refugee program, give me break, give the dough to sheilas that have babies not fake reffos that come here to retire on centrelink.

How many refugees will benefit from Abbott's generous baby bonus? A lot I would think considering that they tend to have higher fertility rates than the locals.

Abbott's plan must seem very attractive to refugees who want to start a family.

Wait till word of Abbott's baby bonus spreads around the world. Will Australia be swamped?

Stop the boats! Stop Abbott's baby bonus!

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35092 Gender:	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #5 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:51am i think the most sensible thing tony ever said was 'i wont be contesting the 2013 election"
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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #6 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:51am

True Colours wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:45am:

Innocent bystander wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:22am:

Yet its OK by him to have a blank check bogus refugee program, give me break, give the dough to sheilas that have babies not fake reffos that come here to retire on centrelink.

How many refugees will benefit from Abbott's generous baby bonus? A lot I would think considering that they tend to have higher fertility rates than the locals.

Abbott's plan must seem very attractive to refugees who want to start a family.

Wait till word of Abbott's baby bonus spreads around the world. Will Australia be swamped?

Stop the boats! Stop Abbott's baby bonus!

What baby bonus?|

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59248 Here Gender:	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:12pm Tony has been an elected independent for 2 decades and has done a brilliant job for his electorate.
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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:51am: i think the most sensible thing tony ever said was 'i wont be contesting the 2013 election" It wont be a contest...
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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #9 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 2:05pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am:

Not that it will ever wash away his heinous sin of supporting Gillard for three years.

What he said was that the parental leave shemes of both parties (we musn't say paid maternity leave, that would be sexist, one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century) are examples of a welfare system gone mad.
We've reached a point where people no longer believe they have any responsibility to look after themselves but that the government should do it.
He went on to say that, as an economy, we can't afford to go further & further down this track, we can't fund it.
I agree with him 100%.

bogy you dont need to be a genius to know that.....

its pathetic..look at Europe we keep hearing how all those countries have paid maternity leave.. and look at them either at war with themselves...in DEBT up to their eyebrows... at war with their own govts...

and we cant wait to play catchup..

let this mindless generation stand on its own feet...stop wanting someone else to pay their way through life...

we never had unemployment benefits FHB..baby bonus..or paid maternity leave.. and we survived..

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #10 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 2:43pm I thought someone would already have said it Seeing that's not the case, I'll have to Yes, Windsor said something sensible and a stopped clock's right at least once (or is that twice) a day Done
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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #11 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 3:30pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am:

Not that it will ever wash away his heinous sin of supporting Gillard for three years.

What he said was that the parental leave shemes of both parties (we musn't say paid maternity leave, that would be sexist, one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century) are examples of a welfare system gone mad.

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Yet he was happy to toss money at economic refugess. Double standards Tony old boy.

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Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible
Reply #12 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 6:17pm

salad in wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 3:30pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am:

Not that it will ever wash away his heinous sin of supporting Gillard for three years.

What he said was that the parental leave shemes of both parties (we musn't say paid maternity leave, that would be sexist, one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century) are examples of a welfare system gone mad.

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Yet he was happy to toss money at economic refugess. Double standards Tony old boy.

not to mention his grubby back room deals filling his own pockets... Roll Eyes

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Tony Windsor has said something sensible Reply #13 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 6:25pm The government and by extension, the people, have allowed our society to become dependant on 2 incomes per family. It is obvious that you need the government, us, to help in part to nuture creation without the realisation that you will have to fail financially in order to achieve it.
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