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Reply #15 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:38pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:35am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:32am:

you must be a complete dumb ar$e to think you can fix it.

...with a tax Grin

Perhaps a totally different tax might fix the issue of falling sea levels?

Sea levels are not falling.

From the link:

The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year.
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Since 2011, sea levels have been rising at a faster pace of about ten millimetres per year.

Stop the denial

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Have to remember though that when the Carbon tax is scrapped, sea levels may well rise again anyway.

The carbon price is not being scrapped, it is simply moving to a floating price a year earlier than originally legislated.

Sea levels will continue to rise. The best we can do is minimise the rate at which they are rising.

Denying the problem will not make it go away.

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Reply #16 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:49am:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/08/22/22/24/aust-sucks-up-ocean-s-waters-study

New US research shows Australia's dry soil and mountainous coastline soaked up heavy rainfall in 2010 and 2011 and stopped it from flowing back into the ocean.

That effectively halted a longterm trend of rising sea levels which have been caused by higher temperatures and melting ice sheets.

"No other continent has this combination of atmospheric set-up and topography," scientist John Fasullo, who worked on the study, said in a statement.

"Only in Australia could the atmosphere carry such heavy tropical rains to such a large area, only to have those rains fail to make their way to the ocean."

The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year.

This is partly because heat has caused water to expand, and partly because run-off from retreating glaciers and ice sheets has made its way into the oceans.

But for an 18-month period beginning in 2010, the oceans mysteriously dropped by about seven millimetres, more than offsetting the annual rise, the study says.

The US scientists say this was mainly caused by Australia's uniquely dry soil and land surface.

While some of the water evaporated in the desert sun, much of it sank into the dry, granular soil of the Western Plateau or filled the Lake Eyre basin in the east.

so the seas rise it is ACCC. the seas drop it is OUR FAULT???

LOL. I thought Longy had just discovered low tide.

Bit chilly this morning hey Longy? You should let Abbott know so he can scrap his "direct action" plan.

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Reply #17 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:49am:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/08/22/22/24/aust-sucks-up-ocean-s-waters-study

New US research shows Australia's dry soil and mountainous coastline soaked up heavy rainfall in 2010 and 2011 and stopped it from flowing back into the ocean.

That effectively halted a longterm trend of rising sea levels which have been caused by higher temperatures and melting ice sheets.

"No other continent has this combination of atmospheric set-up and topography," scientist John Fasullo, who worked on the study, said in a statement.

"Only in Australia could the atmosphere carry such heavy tropical rains to such a large area, only to have those rains fail to make their way to the ocean."

The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year.

As the article and "research" points out - sea levels over the globe are STILL rising as predicted

It is ONLY in Australia - after decades of drought, that this phenomena has occurred - where the land has EXPANDED and effectively RISEN

Do you think this can be done EVERY year ?

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Sea Levels fall! What happened to ACC? Reply #18 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:50pm rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:38pm: ... Sea levels are not falling. From the link: The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year. ... Since 2011, sea levels have been rising at a faster pace of about ten millimetres per year. Stop the denial
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Reply #19 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:06pm

The point of the article is missed by most. The real issue is just how gullible science can be to blame the filling lake Eyre for GLOBAL drops in sea levels! It is an impossibly ludicrous explanation for 7mm global sea level drops. The amount of water involved is incredibly huge and yet Australia barely had higher than average rainfall.

The article underlines just how little we know about climate yet how quick we are to rush to judgment with truly stupid explanations. Go take a look at Lake eyre. it is a bout a foot deep and compared to the oceans is about 0.0001% of the surface area.

What will the next explanation be for when sea levels drop or yet another climate change prediction fails to occur - as they all do.

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Reply #20 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:21pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:43am:

I suggest you look up the word 'trend'. Then figure out whether we should pay attention to what happened in 2010-1 or should pay attention to what happened every other year.

An anomaly in one year does not indicate a long-term trend.

The most important sentence in the article is this:

The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year.

But somehow you allowed your bias to blind you to that you to that - or else you do not understand simple English.

hmmmmmmmm, a 3/4 filled glass of water, place a few ice cubes or rocks or maybe a few sunken boats in, I'm sure the water level in the glass will rise!!!!!!!!! Roll Eyes

Proven Fact Cool

Makes me wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rising sea levels Grin

Maybe its all the bullshyte that is making the sea rise!!!!!!

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Sea Levels fall! What happened to ACC? Reply #21 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:32pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:06pm: The point of the article ... Misinterpretation through perversity. longweekend58, what do the vast majority of the best qualified scientists say? What are your qualifications? As the saying goes: A fool is certain; An ignorant fool, absolutely so.
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Reply #22 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:51pm

# wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:06pm:

The point of the article ...

Misinterpretation through perversity.

longweekend58, what do the vast majority of the best qualified scientists say? What are your qualifications?

As the saying goes:
A fool is certain;
An ignorant fool, absolutely so.

basic maths bozo. The explanation that Australia sucked up the WORLDS water is the kind of lunacy you expect from a bad sci-fi movie. I have no idea why it went down but I certainly know it wasn't that as does the huge number of scientists that ARENT standing in line to agree with it.

it speaks volumes about science's ability when it comes up with such demonstrably stupid crap as this. And you believe it too, just like a good non-think ideologue should.

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Reply #23 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:06pm:

The point of the article is missed by most. The real issue is just how gullible science can be to blame the filling lake Eyre for GLOBAL drops in sea levels! It is an impossibly ludicrous explanation for 7mm global sea level drops. The amount of water involved is incredibly huge and yet Australia barely had higher than average rainfall.

Barely higher than average rainfall?!?! Really?!?!

Caught telling lies and selectively misquoting to justify your denial again. Pretty pathetic.

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Reply #24 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 7:37pm

# wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:50pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

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Sea levels are not falling.

From the link:

The world's oceans have been rising in recent decades by around three millimetres every year.
...
Since 2011, sea levels have been rising at a faster pace of about ten millimetres per year.

Stop the denial

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Green_Army.jpg

ironically your cartoon is EXACTLY what scientists are claiming: that the oceans have been dumped onto Australia and that is why they were lower.

can anything be more ludicrous and less believable?

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Reply #25 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 7:44pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:06pm:

The point of the article is missed by most. The real issue is just how gullible science can be to blame the filling lake Eyre for GLOBAL drops in sea levels! It is an impossibly ludicrous explanation for 7mm global sea level drops. The amount of water involved is incredibly huge and yet Australia barely had higher than average rainfall.

Barely higher than average rainfall?!?! Really?!?!
http://www.environment.gov.au/soe/2011/report/inland-water/images/wat-fig4-16.pn...

Caught telling lies and selectively misquoting to justify your denial again. Pretty pathetic.

you are still talking about enough water to lower the oceans!!!! that is not credible. it is a stupid explanation. the amount of water involved in lowering the oceans by 7mmm PLUS the 3mm of thermal expansion makes it 10mm GLOBALLY. to do that would require every square metre of Australia to receive and absorb ENTIRELY 1000mm. there must be no evaporation and no runoff which accounts for between 50 and 70% of rainfall meaning that australias rainfall over the entire continent would have had to been 2000mm or around 5 times want much of the coast receives and 50 times that in the centre.

it doesn't add up at all.

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Reply #27 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:15pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Rider wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 11:17am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:54am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:35am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:32am:

you must be a complete dumb ar$e to think you can fix it.

...with a tax Grin

Yeah because prices never influence human behaviour?

http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v9/n9/images/nrc2703-f5.jpg

you die from cigarettes - sea level rise at 3mm per annum is gonna kill how many?

The impact of sea level rise on developing countries: a comparative analysis
Our results reveal that tens of millions of people in the developing world are likely to be displaced by SLR within this century; and accompanying economic and ecological damage will be severe for many.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-008-9499-5

Really bunny....is that as good as it gets? a 2009 fluff piece from some tax payer funded grant addicted warmist super sponge on society...this nonsense has been thoroughly debunked as the complete and utter nonsense it is.

You really are showing just how desperate the 'cause' has become when you are clinging to this sort of scare mongering.

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Reply #29 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:52pm

the seas rising?

fvcken bullshit.. Angry

I've live in coastal regions all my life and I can tell you it hasn't risen by one millimetre!!

even looking at historical pictures from 100 years ago...

as for temperatures rising.. pfft... its only risen .062 in the last 15 years....

so more bullshit by labor/greens...

but why would Labor do this apart from the Greens Holding a gun to their heads and holding Australians to ransom?

if you can convince stupid sheep people that a tax is for their own good by running a scare campaign then they'll accept it and pay it no matter what the cost...

and million of people fell for the Global Warming con...

but thank god they are slowly waking up to biggest fraud of all time in world history.. !!

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