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Reply #105 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 4:09pm  
the depressed prozac_now has run away...
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Reply #106 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 6:43pm  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 5:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 4:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     



You spent all those years lecturing us on PEAK OIL!!!!

how'd that work out prozac_now?


As usual, Maria/Longy, your comment/s are "somewhat" restricted on Realities & concentrate on Personality abuse!

Nothing to say about the current "Realities", which I posted about?

Oh & btw, as I have said "a few times already", Peak Oil is now part of history, with standard (old & cheap Oil) Production having Peaked around 2006!

And, I have also previously said, what has been happened & what will happen, are now involves Demand, Supply & Pricing, which are & will be largely affected by Demographics.
In short, the recent Price Decline, is largely driven by Demand Decline & by a short term increase in Shale production, which is now in Decline.
There will be a competition, for some time, between Global Demand Decline, driven by Demographics, in which the "winner" will be "LOW" Oil Pricing & generally lower Commodity Pricing.
This will prevail for some time, until Shale is "priced out" & it becomes obvious that the "old Oil sources" are now in run out stage, then Oil  Pricing may start to lift again, "somewhat". 
Having sustained huge losses on Shale, it will be difficult to find new backers, willing to put money into a new Shale surge, so Shale may well NOT make a COMEBACK! 



In short, you are now saying that Peak OIl is not real and real all at once.

you are slippery, but most crazy people are.

you've never gotten a single prediction right yet. Today is stil NOT your day.


Poor Longy/Maria (& a few others), your understanding of Reality is NEARLY as bad as your memory!?

I'll give "some" consideration, to assisting you there.




so no answers at all depression_now? just the old slippery avoidance of anything of substance?  BTW I was right about peak oil and you were dead wrong.


see the following thread, Longy/Maria & Others -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

According to your "Beliefs", you are always "Right"!
According to Reality, Peak Oil has already happened & History will confirm that Reality!
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Re: Politics, Economics & New Realities!
Reply #107 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:01am  
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 5:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 4:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     



You spent all those years lecturing us on PEAK OIL!!!!

how'd that work out prozac_now?


As usual, Maria/Longy, your comment/s are "somewhat" restricted on Realities & concentrate on Personality abuse!

Nothing to say about the current "Realities", which I posted about?

Oh & btw, as I have said "a few times already", Peak Oil is now part of history, with standard (old & cheap Oil) Production having Peaked around 2006!

And, I have also previously said, what has been happened & what will happen, are now involves Demand, Supply & Pricing, which are & will be largely affected by Demographics.
In short, the recent Price Decline, is largely driven by Demand Decline & by a short term increase in Shale production, which is now in Decline.
There will be a competition, for some time, between Global Demand Decline, driven by Demographics, in which the "winner" will be "LOW" Oil Pricing & generally lower Commodity Pricing.
This will prevail for some time, until Shale is "priced out" & it becomes obvious that the "old Oil sources" are now in run out stage, then Oil  Pricing may start to lift again, "somewhat". 
Having sustained huge losses on Shale, it will be difficult to find new backers, willing to put money into a new Shale surge, so Shale may well NOT make a COMEBACK! 



In short, you are now saying that Peak OIl is not real and real all at once.

you are slippery, but most crazy people are.

you've never gotten a single prediction right yet. Today is stil NOT your day.


Poor Longy/Maria (& a few others), your understanding of Reality is NEARLY as bad as your memory!?

I'll give "some" consideration, to assisting you there.




so no answers at all depression_now? just the old slippery avoidance of anything of substance?  BTW I was right about peak oil and you were dead wrong.


see the following thread, Longy/Maria & Others -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

According to your "Beliefs", you are always "Right"!
According to Reality, Peak Oil has already happened & History will confirm that Reality!




good to see that you are still the delusional wannabe 'expert' you've always been. we are in a historical GLUT of oil and yet you still think peak oil has occurred.

tell your shrink that.
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Re: Politics, Economics & New Realities!
Reply #108 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 11:51am  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:01am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 5:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 4:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     



You spent all those years lecturing us on PEAK OIL!!!!

how'd that work out prozac_now?


As usual, Maria/Longy, your comment/s are "somewhat" restricted on Realities & concentrate on Personality abuse!

Nothing to say about the current "Realities", which I posted about?

Oh & btw, as I have said "a few times already", Peak Oil is now part of history, with standard (old & cheap Oil) Production having Peaked around 2006!

And, I have also previously said, what has been happened & what will happen, are now involves Demand, Supply & Pricing, which are & will be largely affected by Demographics.
In short, the recent Price Decline, is largely driven by Demand Decline & by a short term increase in Shale production, which is now in Decline.
There will be a competition, for some time, between Global Demand Decline, driven by Demographics, in which the "winner" will be "LOW" Oil Pricing & generally lower Commodity Pricing.
This will prevail for some time, until Shale is "priced out" & it becomes obvious that the "old Oil sources" are now in run out stage, then Oil  Pricing may start to lift again, "somewhat". 
Having sustained huge losses on Shale, it will be difficult to find new backers, willing to put money into a new Shale surge, so Shale may well NOT make a COMEBACK! 



In short, you are now saying that Peak OIl is not real and real all at once.

you are slippery, but most crazy people are.

you've never gotten a single prediction right yet. Today is stil NOT your day.


Poor Longy/Maria (& a few others), your understanding of Reality is NEARLY as bad as your memory!?

I'll give "some" consideration, to assisting you there.




so no answers at all depression_now? just the old slippery avoidance of anything of substance?  BTW I was right about peak oil and you were dead wrong.


see the following thread, Longy/Maria & Others -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

According to your "Beliefs", you are always "Right"!
According to Reality, Peak Oil has already happened & History will confirm that Reality!




good to see that you are still the delusional wannabe 'expert' you've always been. we are in a historical GLUT of oil and yet you still think peak oil has occurred.

tell your shrink that.


And, that is your belief, as usual with nothing to back it up!

In fact, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!
However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!
Finally, if your look at the facts, which are available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.
This info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!


Finally, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all
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Reply #109 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 6:13pm  
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 11:51am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:01am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 5:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 4:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     



You spent all those years lecturing us on PEAK OIL!!!!

how'd that work out prozac_now?


As usual, Maria/Longy, your comment/s are "somewhat" restricted on Realities & concentrate on Personality abuse!

Nothing to say about the current "Realities", which I posted about?

Oh & btw, as I have said "a few times already", Peak Oil is now part of history, with standard (old & cheap Oil) Production having Peaked around 2006!

And, I have also previously said, what has been happened & what will happen, are now involves Demand, Supply & Pricing, which are & will be largely affected by Demographics.
In short, the recent Price Decline, is largely driven by Demand Decline & by a short term increase in Shale production, which is now in Decline.
There will be a competition, for some time, between Global Demand Decline, driven by Demographics, in which the "winner" will be "LOW" Oil Pricing & generally lower Commodity Pricing.
This will prevail for some time, until Shale is "priced out" & it becomes obvious that the "old Oil sources" are now in run out stage, then Oil  Pricing may start to lift again, "somewhat". 
Having sustained huge losses on Shale, it will be difficult to find new backers, willing to put money into a new Shale surge, so Shale may well NOT make a COMEBACK! 



In short, you are now saying that Peak OIl is not real and real all at once.

you are slippery, but most crazy people are.

you've never gotten a single prediction right yet. Today is stil NOT your day.


Poor Longy/Maria (& a few others), your understanding of Reality is NEARLY as bad as your memory!?

I'll give "some" consideration, to assisting you there.




so no answers at all depression_now? just the old slippery avoidance of anything of substance?  BTW I was right about peak oil and you were dead wrong.


see the following thread, Longy/Maria & Others -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

According to your "Beliefs", you are always "Right"!
According to Reality, Peak Oil has already happened & History will confirm that Reality!




good to see that you are still the delusional wannabe 'expert' you've always been. we are in a historical GLUT of oil and yet you still think peak oil has occurred.

tell your shrink that.


And, that is your belief, as usual with nothing to back it up!

In fact, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!
However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!
Finally, if your look at the facts, which are available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.
This info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!


Finally, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all




so it isnt PEAK OIL anymore, it is OLD peak Oil???  what a dope. we have a massive glut of oil at the moment due to massive reserves and nothing even like a 'peak' coming. 

you are such a pessimist and yet, you are NEVER RIGHT.  you are chicken little on economics predicting doom and gloom each and eveyr years and being repeatedly wrong.
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Reply #110 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 7:27pm  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 6:13pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 11:51am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:01am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:19pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 5:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 4:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     



You spent all those years lecturing us on PEAK OIL!!!!

how'd that work out prozac_now?


As usual, Maria/Longy, your comment/s are "somewhat" restricted on Realities & concentrate on Personality abuse!

Nothing to say about the current "Realities", which I posted about?

Oh & btw, as I have said "a few times already", Peak Oil is now part of history, with standard (old & cheap Oil) Production having Peaked around 2006!

And, I have also previously said, what has been happened & what will happen, are now involves Demand, Supply & Pricing, which are & will be largely affected by Demographics.
In short, the recent Price Decline, is largely driven by Demand Decline & by a short term increase in Shale production, which is now in Decline.
There will be a competition, for some time, between Global Demand Decline, driven by Demographics, in which the "winner" will be "LOW" Oil Pricing & generally lower Commodity Pricing.
This will prevail for some time, until Shale is "priced out" & it becomes obvious that the "old Oil sources" are now in run out stage, then Oil  Pricing may start to lift again, "somewhat". 
Having sustained huge losses on Shale, it will be difficult to find new backers, willing to put money into a new Shale surge, so Shale may well NOT make a COMEBACK! 



In short, you are now saying that Peak OIl is not real and real all at once.

you are slippery, but most crazy people are.

you've never gotten a single prediction right yet. Today is stil NOT your day.


Poor Longy/Maria (& a few others), your understanding of Reality is NEARLY as bad as your memory!?

I'll give "some" consideration, to assisting you there.




so no answers at all depression_now? just the old slippery avoidance of anything of substance?  BTW I was right about peak oil and you were dead wrong.


see the following thread, Longy/Maria & Others -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

According to your "Beliefs", you are always "Right"!
According to Reality, Peak Oil has already happened & History will confirm that Reality!




good to see that you are still the delusional wannabe 'expert' you've always been. we are in a historical GLUT of oil and yet you still think peak oil has occurred.

tell your shrink that.


And, that is your belief, as usual with nothing to back it up!

In fact, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!
However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!
Finally, if your look at the facts, which are available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.
This info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!


Finally, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all




so it isnt PEAK OIL anymore, it is OLD peak Oil???  what a dope. we have a massive glut of oil at the moment due to massive reserves and nothing even like a 'peak' coming. 

you are such a pessimist and yet, you are NEVER RIGHT.  you are chicken little on economics predicting doom and gloom each and eveyr years and being repeatedly wrong.


Well Longy/Maria,
your comprehension still hasn't improved, your lack of proof is still consistent.
Anyway, as I said, History will confirm Peak Oil has already happened!

Oh & I note you still haven't answered the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all
Probably, because you have no idea about what is affecting basic Global Economics!
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Reply #111 - Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:31am  
you really should join the climate crowd prozac_now.  you have the perfect 'logic' set up already.  peak oil - where production is insufficient to meet demand - has already occured?  that is why we have a massive GLUT of oil now?

sometimes I think you are insane. then there are moments like this where doubt is removed.
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Reply #112 - Jan 4th, 2016 at 2:58pm  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:31am:
you really should join the climate crowd prozac_now.  you have the perfect 'logic' set up already.  peak oil - where production is insufficient to meet demand - has already occured?  that is why we have a massive GLUT of oil now?

sometimes I think you are insane. then there are moments like this where doubt is removed.


As previously stated, that is your “belief” and as usual, there is nothing to back it up!

Also, as previously stated, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production in the USA did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!

However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline, particularly Demand (or lack of it) in the USA & Europe! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!


Finally, if your look at the facts (which you don’t because you have your beliefs), which are readily available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.

In fact, following apply (Thousand Barrels Per Day) – Latest figures available are either 2013 or 2014
Country/Region                         Consumption
USA                                           2005 (Peaked) – 20,802  ; 2013 – 18,961
Europe                                       2005 (Peaked)- 16,404   ; 2013 – 14,296
China                                         2005               - 6,795     ; 2013 – 10,480
Middle East                                2005               - 5,988     ; 2013 – 8,083
Global                                        2005               - 84,588   ; 2013 – 91,195
Australia                                    2005                - 964       ; 2014 – 1,080   

Country/Region                     Production
USA                                           Initially Peaked 1985 – 11,192, then fell to 8316 in 2006, before hitting 14,021 in 2014 -it is now again in Decline mode, as Shale slows
Europe                                       1999 (Peaked)- 7,295     ; 2014 – 3,870
China                                         2005               - 3,812     ; 2014 – 4,598
Middle East                                2005               - 26,092   ; 2014 – 27,836
Global                                        2005               - 85,099   ; 2013 – 93,021
Australia                                     2000 (Peaked) – 828     ; 2014 - 473

Again as previously stated, this info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!

Finally Longy/Maria, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all
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Reply #113 - Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:35pm  
You cant have Peak Oil without a PEAK!  Shale oil might confuse you but the fact is that demand has always been exceeded by supply ergo NEVER been at a peak.  the current drop of shale production is not peak oil either since it is a response to demand via price signalling.  STILL NOT A PEAK. Peak Oil is where demand exceeds the ability to supply and for the long term, something that has NEVER happened.


bottom line is YOU WERE WRONG.  there has never been peak oil nor was there ever going to be.  you let your negativity and depression rule your thinking entirely.
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Reply #114 - Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:50pm  
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 2:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:31am:
you really should join the climate crowd prozac_now.  you have the perfect 'logic' set up already.  peak oil - where production is insufficient to meet demand - has already occured?  that is why we have a massive GLUT of oil now?

sometimes I think you are insane. then there are moments like this where doubt is removed.


As previously stated, that is your “belief” and as usual, there is nothing to back it up!

Also, as previously stated, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production in the USA did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!

However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline, particularly Demand (or lack of it) in the USA & Europe! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!


Finally, if your look at the facts (which you don’t because you have your beliefs), which are readily available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.

In fact, following apply (Thousand Barrels Per Day) – Latest figures available are either 2013 or 2014
Country/Region                         Consumption
USA                                           2005 (Peaked) – 20,802  ; 2013 – 18,961
Europe                                       2005 (Peaked)- 16,404   ; 2013 – 14,296
China                                         2005               - 6,795     ; 2013 – 10,480
Middle East                                2005               - 5,988     ; 2013 – 8,083
Global                                        2005               - 84,588   ; 2013 – 91,195
Australia                                    2005                - 964       ; 2014 – 1,080   

Country/Region                     Production
USA                                           Initially Peaked 1985 – 11,192, then fell to 8316 in 2006, before hitting 14,021 in 2014 -it is now again in Decline mode, as Shale slows
Europe                                       1999 (Peaked)- 7,295     ; 2014 – 3,870
China                                         2005               - 3,812     ; 2014 – 4,598
Middle East                                2005               - 26,092   ; 2014 – 27,836
Global                                        2005               - 85,099   ; 2013 – 93,021
Australia                                     2000 (Peaked) – 828     ; 2014 - 473

Again as previously stated, this info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!

Finally Longy/Maria, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all



Peak Oil is not PEAK PRODUCTION, you goose.  google the meaning since you apparently dont trust any source than your own delusions.
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Reply #115 - Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:13pm  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 2:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:31am:
you really should join the climate crowd prozac_now.  you have the perfect 'logic' set up already.  peak oil - where production is insufficient to meet demand - has already occured?  that is why we have a massive GLUT of oil now?

sometimes I think you are insane. then there are moments like this where doubt is removed.


As previously stated, that is your “belief” and as usual, there is nothing to back it up!

Also, as previously stated, "old Oil" has Peaked, But shale Production in the USA did push overall Production slightly higher, for a limited time & now that the Price has hit the skids, so too has the Shale Oil Production!

However, the Oil Price hit the skids MAINLY due to Demand Decline, particularly Demand (or lack of it) in the USA & Europe! The fact is most countries Oil Demand is in Decline, as are their Real Economies.
The reason most countries haven't yet collapsed again, is the massive Stimulus programs raised in the US, Europe, China & many other countries, which also raised Debt levels, which are now overstretched & I suggest will finally break, THIS YEAR!


Finally, if your look at the facts (which you don’t because you have your beliefs), which are readily available, then you would find Oil Consumption did actually increase globally between 2007-2014, But almost all of that rise came via China, which has also started to Decline since 2014.

In fact, following apply (Thousand Barrels Per Day) – Latest figures available are either 2013 or 2014
Country/Region                         Consumption
USA                                           2005 (Peaked) – 20,802  ; 2013 – 18,961
Europe                                       2005 (Peaked)- 16,404   ; 2013 – 14,296
China                                         2005               - 6,795     ; 2013 – 10,480
Middle East                                2005               - 5,988     ; 2013 – 8,083
Global                                        2005               - 84,588   ; 2013 – 91,195
Australia                                    2005                - 964       ; 2014 – 1,080   

Country/Region                     Production
USA                                           Initially Peaked 1985 – 11,192, then fell to 8316 in 2006, before hitting 14,021 in 2014 -it is now again in Decline mode, as Shale slows
Europe                                       1999 (Peaked)- 7,295     ; 2014 – 3,870
China                                         2005               - 3,812     ; 2014 – 4,598
Middle East                                2005               - 26,092   ; 2014 – 27,836
Global                                        2005               - 85,099   ; 2013 – 93,021
Australia                                     2000 (Peaked) – 828     ; 2014 - 473

Again as previously stated, this info is readily available, TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR OWN BELIEFS!

Finally Longy/Maria, I note you don't seem to have the answer to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all



Peak Oil is not PEAK PRODUCTION, you goose.  google the meaning since you apparently dont trust any source than your own delusions.


1) I did supply data, which is more than you ever do and I gave Both Production & Consumption

2) You obviously don't even take your own advice -
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=...
Try Wiki, for a starter -
Peak oil, an event based on M. King Hubbert's theory, is the point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline.[1] Peak oil theory is based on the observed rise, peak, fall, and depletion of aggregate production rate in oil fields over time. It is often confused with oil depletion; however, peak oil is the point of maximum production, while depletion refers to a period of falling reserves and supply.


Finally,  I note you still haven't answered to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

Most Likely , because "you have no idea what's it's about", NOR do you have any idea what is happening currently, in Global Economics, nor do you have any idea WHY it's happening!
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Reply #116 - Jan 5th, 2016 at 6:09am  
Yeh I noticed that when some people get it wrong, they rarely, if at all, admit to it. 

Not a sign of maturity and sadly shows why one should put less consideration into their posts.  After all, if they can't reflect or fix their mistakes, how does one expect any posts can't have the same misconceptions/errors/etc?
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Reply #117 - Jan 5th, 2016 at 4:24pm  
poor old prozac_now.  forever predicting doom gloom, recession and peak oil while being 100% wrong every single time.

must suck to be you.
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Reply #118 - Jan 5th, 2016 at 9:47pm  
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2016 at 4:24pm:
poor old prozac_now.  forever predicting doom gloom, recession and peak oil while being 100% wrong every single time.

must suck to be you.


Well , well Longy/Maria, talk about being wrong!
As I said, YOU obviously don't even take your own advice -
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=...
Try Wiki, for a starter -
Peak oil, an event based on M. King Hubbert's theory, is the point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline.[1] Peak oil theory is based on the observed rise, peak, fall, and depletion of aggregate production rate in oil fields over time. It is often confused with oil depletion; however, peak oil is the point of maximum production, while depletion refers to a period of falling reserves and supply.


I think that means, YOU ARE WRONG, this time & pretty much every other time & on pretty much every topic!

Finally,  I note you still haven't answered to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

WHY? Well, because "you have no idea what's it's about", NOR do you have any idea what is happening currently, in Global Economics, nor do you have any idea WHY it's happening!

Oh & on "Recession", you may not have noticed the GFC AND YOU WILL SOON SEE GFC2, which is likely to be "somewhat worse than the first!
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Reply #119 - Jan 6th, 2016 at 8:27am  
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 5th, 2016 at 9:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 5th, 2016 at 4:24pm:
poor old prozac_now.  forever predicting doom gloom, recession and peak oil while being 100% wrong every single time.

must suck to be you.


Well , well Longy/Maria, talk about being wrong!
As I said, YOU obviously don't even take your own advice -
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=...
Try Wiki, for a starter -
Peak oil, an event based on M. King Hubbert's theory, is the point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline.[1] Peak oil theory is based on the observed rise, peak, fall, and depletion of aggregate production rate in oil fields over time. It is often confused with oil depletion; however, peak oil is the point of maximum production, while depletion refers to a period of falling reserves and supply.


I think that means, YOU ARE WRONG, this time & pretty much every other time & on pretty much every topic!

Finally,  I note you still haven't answered to the basic query raised on the following thread -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451723678/all

WHY? Well, because "you have no idea what's it's about", NOR do you have any idea what is happening currently, in Global Economics, nor do you have any idea WHY it's happening!

Oh & on "Recession", you may not have noticed the GFC AND YOU WILL SOON SEE GFC2, which is likely to be "somewhat worse than the first!



you have spent years (decades even) predicting the demise of the oil-based economy because we will 'run out of oil'.  call it what you want, but you were dead wrong.

you are just as wrong about everything else as well.
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