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Reply #150 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 12:59pm
 
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perceptions_now wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
Well, WE have already started "the long collapse", But things are set to get a lot worse in 2016 & for "some time" to come.

So, the timing of Bunnings expanding overseas could be worse, BUT I can't think how!
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Reply #151 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 11:58pm
 
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perceptions_now wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 11:56pm:
Having kept a close eye on many issues, over time, which relate to Governments (from the Right, Left & Centre) & Central Banks, both here in OZ & in other countries, I must say that there is a great deal of "misinformation", which is spread about.

This "misinformation" is spread across many issues, including share markets, a great deal of "supposed" factual Economic information and many other issues.

In short, there are deliberate attempts to keep the general Public "blind", to many REALITIES!

However, TPTB should keep in mind that everything has limits, as I suggest we may be in the process of finding out! 
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Reply #152 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 10:59am
 
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perceptions_now wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 10:53am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 9:55am:
Oil Prices Drive Stocks Rout: Dow Sheds Nearly 400 Points


Plunging oil prices pounded U.S. stock markets again on Friday, with
the Dow Jones industrial average closing down nearly 400 points
, or more than 2 percent, and the other indices taking similar beatings.


Earlier the Dow had been down nearly 537 points
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The Dow and S&P 500 have now fallen about 8 percent this year, while the Nasdaq is off more than 10 percent.

An International Atomic Energy Agency report verifying whether Iran has kept its promises under a nuclear deal reached last year with world powers is likely to be issued on Saturday, paving the way for sanctions relief and the widespread resumption of Iranian oil shipments, a diplomatic source told Reuters on Friday. Iranian and other officials had previously said they expected the report to come out on Friday.

Bracing for the decision, traders drove the price of crude oil down past the symbolically important $30 a barrel level.

U.S. crude oil settled at $29.42 a barrel,
down $1.78, or 5.71 percent. It was the first time in 12 years that it had finished trading under $30.


The steep slump in crude from over $100 a barrel in the summer of 2014 has eviscerated energy company profits and made it much harder for them to pay off their debts.

Still, some traders said the market was overselling on oil's woes, given the continued strength of the overall U.S. economy. But evidence of a fourth-quarter slowdown, weaker than expected U.S. retail sales for December , continued to mount. And the Federal Reserve reported that U.S. industrial production, which includes manufacturing, mining and utilities, dropped in December for the third month in a row.

Investors also were spooked by expectations of disappointing earnings reports for companies hit by plunging oil prices, and indications that China will report its weakest full-year growth figure in 25 years on Tuesday
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Economists said the expansion of the Chinese economy was held back by sluggish domestic and external demand, weak investments, factory overcapacity and high property inventories, which exacerbated deflationary pressures in the economy.

The U.S. markets' down day continued a rout that began when Shanghai Composite Index finished down 3.6 percent, sliding to its lowest close since Dec. 8, 2014.

Stocks opened higher in Europe but quickly fell. Germany's DAX lost 3.1 percent, while France's CAC 40 dropped 2.9 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 dropped 2.4 percent.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/u-s-stock-market-dow-plunges-oil-prices-...
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It should be noted that it is likely that the FedRes may have "assisted" a little, when the DOW was Down 537 in mid session and again, when it was Down some 415 points, with 2 minutes left in the session, before finally closing Down 391.

It should also be noted that Oil actually "settled" at $29.70, after reaching a session low of $29.19.



Monday MAY WELL be an "interesting" day, on OZ MARKETS?!



Monday MAY WELL be an "interesting" day, on OZ MARKETS, as already stated.
BUT, in terms of OZ & Global Politics, what happens over the rest of 2016, on Local & Global Markets, may well have some very far reaching Political ramifications, with Revenue in serious Decline & pressures mounting on Expenditure!
That said, the Political outcomes WILL NEED TO BE BALANCED, OTHERWISE THE FINAL OUTCOMES WILL BE MUCH WORSE, FOR ALL!
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Reply #153 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:46pm
 
Peter Martin writes on how few tools Australia has left to fight against a recession.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-has-few-tools-le...

The biggest tools are in the government. You got to worry, big global financial/economic shock coming and this mob of incompetents running the place. It could be the Premiers’ Plan all over again  Sad
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Reply #154 - Jan 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:46pm:
Peter Martin writes on how few tools Australia has left to fight against a recession.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-has-few-tools-le...

The biggest tools are in the government. You got to worry, big global financial/economic shock coming and this mob of incompetents running the place. It could be the Premiers’ Plan all over again  Sad



Yes, and Martin is advocating massive bailouts if we go into recession even without a surplus to work with as Rudd had throwing it around in 2008. Martin said: "Hit hard and hit fast" - what a nong, where is the money this time ? Bailouts worked for a short time when we had a two speed economy. But now it's just one speed, spluttering at idle. We don't need bailouts in 2016 and onward, we need incentives to increase our wealth, not bailouts, and pay down our total $5.5 Trillion debt, that's more than what all the coins and banknotes in the World are worth, judging by ....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452761907/11#11

Some people seem intent on using short term fixes and a wing and a prayer after that for the long term. Martin's fix is based on increasing the debt ceiling into Outer Space somewhere, with future generations paying it off generation after generation after generation. What did Rudd's short term bailouts do for OZ ? where are we now ? more debt, more sale of public assets, shrinking markets and a recession looming

Pull your head in Martin, what happened to your own economic consultancy business anyway, go broke did it?
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Reply #155 - Jan 17th, 2016 at 3:10pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:46pm:
Peter Martin writes on how few tools Australia has left to fight against a recession.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-has-few-tools-le...

The biggest tools are in the government. You got to worry, big global financial/economic shock coming and this mob of incompetents running the place. It could be the Premiers’ Plan all over again  Sad



Yes, and Martin is advocating massive bailouts if we go into recession even without a surplus to work with as Rudd had throwing it around in 2008. Martin said: "Hit hard and hit fast" - what a nong, where is the money this time ? Bailouts worked for a short time when we had a two speed economy. But now it's just one speed, spluttering at idle. We don't need bailouts in 2016 and onward, we need incentives to increase our wealth, not bailouts, and pay down our total $5.5 Trillion debt, that's more than what all the coins and banknotes in the World are worth, judging by ....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452761907/11#11

Some people seem intent on using short term fixes and a wing and a prayer after that for the long term. Martin's fix is based on increasing the debt ceiling into Outer Space somewhere, with future generations paying it off generation after generation after generation. What did Rudd's short term bailouts do for OZ ? where are we now ? more debt, more sale of public assets, shrinking markets and a recession looming

Pull your head in Martin, what happened to your own economic consultancy business anyway, go broke did it?


Stimulus programs/Bailouts or whatever other name is given to them, are a standard part of standard modern Economics and they have been used as a standard reaction, at certain times in the Economic cycle, usually successfully!

However, at this particular moment, they will not achieve the usual expectations!

As has already been demonstrated Locally & Globally, in the GFC, the usual remedies have been tried & retried, BUT they simply HAVE NOT WORKED!!

It's time for some new approaches!!! 
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Reply #156 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 8:16am
 
I looked at the title of this nonsensical thread and had a laugh when it referred to 'new realities'.  What exactly is new about stock market turmoil, recessionary pressures or commodities difficulties.  All these things are very old news indeed.

I will take a punt and say that Perceptions was posting the same depressing view on the world during the economic booms of 2003-6.

Sorry Perc, but you sound like someone who would find only problems in winning the lottery.
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Reply #157 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 10:20am
 
A suitable climate is one item we won’t have for much longer.

China is flexing its military muscle in a big way, it could try the old technique of a war to distract the populace from local poor/declining economic conditions.

Confidence has not really returned to the private sector anywhere since the GFC, private sector is dis- and de-leveraging. Saving and paying down that. The 2014 Budget has a lot to do with that. Confidence will take a long time to rebuild.
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Reply #158 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 12:16pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 10:20am:
A suitable climate is one item we won’t have for much longer.

China is flexing its military muscle in a big way, it could try the old technique of a war to distract the populace from local poor/declining economic conditions.

Confidence has not really returned to the private sector anywhere since the GFC, private sector is dis- and de-leveraging. Saving and paying down that. The 2014 Budget has a lot to do with that. Confidence will take a long time to rebuild.



You mean because of all the drastic temperature changes that aren't happening? the massive sea level rises that arent occuring or perhaps it is the melting polar cas which are growing instead.

Or Perhaps you are like Prince Charles who thinks ISIS was caused by global warming. You do tend to 'think alike'.
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Reply #159 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 8:16am:
I looked at the title of this nonsensical thread and had a laugh when it referred to 'new realities'.  What exactly is new about stock market turmoil, recessionary pressures or commodities difficulties.  All these things are very old news indeed.

I will take a punt and say that Perceptions was posting the same depressing view on the world during the economic booms of 2003-6.

Sorry Perc, but you sound like someone who would find only problems in winning the lottery.


Longy, if you want to post here, the least you can do is post under your proper Title of longweekend58!

Otherwise, I will give you even less credence, than I already do!
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Reply #160 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 3:51pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 2:49pm:
mariacostel wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 8:16am:
I looked at the title of this nonsensical thread and had a laugh when it referred to 'new realities'.  What exactly is new about stock market turmoil, recessionary pressures or commodities difficulties.  All these things are very old news indeed.

I will take a punt and say that Perceptions was posting the same depressing view on the world during the economic booms of 2003-6.

Sorry Perc, but you sound like someone who would find only problems in winning the lottery.


Longy, if you want to post here, the least you can do is post under your proper Title of longweekend58!

Otherwise, I will give you even less credence, than I already do!


If you are the OP you claim to be then check the IP addresses. You will discover the scintillating news that I live in Sydney. Now will you cease your mindless sock claims and return to making your silly economic predictions.
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Reply #161 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 9:47am
 
IMF downgrades global forecast

By Andrew Walker BBC World Service economics correspondent

    19 January 2016
    From the section Business

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35344352
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Reply #162 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:26pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 3:51pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 2:49pm:
mariacostel wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 8:16am:
I looked at the title of this nonsensical thread and had a laugh when it referred to 'new realities'.  What exactly is new about stock market turmoil, recessionary pressures or commodities difficulties.  All these things are very old news indeed.

I will take a punt and say that Perceptions was posting the same depressing view on the world during the economic booms of 2003-6.

Sorry Perc, but you sound like someone who would find only problems in winning the lottery.


Longy, if you want to post here, the least you can do is post under your proper Title of longweekend58!

Otherwise, I will give you even less credence, than I already do!


If you are the OP you claim to be then check the IP addresses. You will discover the scintillating news that I live in Sydney. Now will you cease your mindless sock claims and return to making your silly economic predictions.


As usual Longy, your statements have nothing to do with REALITY!

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Reply #163 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:59am
 
So what are small businesses worried about...
http://www.theage.com.au/small-business/managing/australian-economy-a-major-concern-for-small-business-survey-20160119-gm8yim.html

33% Australian economy vs. 8% Industrial Relations.

Got to say, with the current environment - one wonders if libs have demonstrated better economic management.  Have all those lib supporters put their money into companies and shares in the anticipation since start of Abbott govt for spectacular economic performance?
Are they putting shares into stocks like fossil fuels, you know, because how the libs go on, and on about how universities divested away from that area? 

http://theaimn.com/did-christopher-pyne-buy-santos-shares/

Oh wait, excuses from a "no-excuses government"!   A senate that's blocking bad lib decisions?  Call a DD?
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Reply #164 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:15am
 
stunpore, you can make links active by swiping them carefully from end to end, then click on the first icon (Insert hyperlink) in the menu at top of the "Post Reply" window


http://www.theage.com.au/small-business/managing/australian-economy-a-major-conc...


http://theaimn.com/did-christopher-pyne-buy-santos-shares/
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