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Reply #180 - Apr 1st, 2016 at 4:17pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 1:57pm:
perceptions,  it is a bit negative and neurotic to worry about economic collapse.
i have been hearing about peak oil,  real estate collapses, rising sea levels, GM food catastrophes, nuclear war  for the last 30 years.

being negative and neurotic is the consolation prize for the beta male.

it gives his ego an excuse to not bother trying to be strong, dynamic, powerful and influential.

You know what i honestly think the next 10 years are going to be like.

About

the same

as

the

Last 10 years.


Anyone born in australia has a marvellous opportunity.
An incredible advantage.
Dont curse the country, dont curse the government, dont curse business, dont curse the system, dont curse the soil, dont curse the weather......these are ALL you've got.

Dont curse all you've got!!!!

The miracle of prosperity has been set up for you.

All you have to do is plant the seed .
Dont ask for thing to change, they wont. it will all change for each individual when he/she changes.
Dont ask for less problems/ask for more skills.
Dont ask that it was easier/ask that you were better !!!


AND, if only that were to happen, then the Local & Global Economy would slide into a deep Recession, BUT that won't be what happens, because the basics have already been laid & been laid for quite some time!

Well, I agree, we have been "set up", BUT NOT FOR PROSPERITY!

AND, I also agree, there is little likelihood of change, PARTICULARLY VOLUNTARY CHANGE IN PRACTICES BY THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT, EVEN IF WE "POLITELY ASK"!

So, we may need to take the only ation they understand & THAT IS TO KICK THEM OUT, ALL OF THEM & KEEP DOING SO, UNTIL THEY FINALLY GET THE HINT.

IT'S TIME FOR THEM, TO "START TELLING THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH"!!!


As it is, the next 10/30 years, will be nothing like the last 10/30 years, it will be a great deal worse and whilst the Politicians certainly must share some of the blame, WE ALSO MUST SHARE SOME OF THAT BLAME, AS WE ALSO HAVEN'T SPOKEN, AS WE SHOULD HAVE!!!
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Reply #181 - Apr 11th, 2016 at 12:47pm
 
World historical TFR (1950–2015)
UN, average  Years TFR (Total Fertility Rate)
1950–1955 4.95
1955–1960 4.89
1960–1965 4.91
1965–1970 4.85
1970–1975 4.45
1975–1980 3.84
1980–1985 3.59
1985–1990 3.39
1990–1995 3.04
1995–2000 2.79
2000–2005 2.62
2005–2010 2.52
2010–2015 2.36
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate

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The above set of stats & graph, override ALL THE POLITICAL RHETORIC/BS, from THE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY'S, that you have heard in recent times & will hear for some time to come!

It is Population AND issues involving Energy (Pricing & Supply Decline), plus Climate Change which are & will be, the major driving influences in the Local & Global Economy Realities, from now until the end of this century!
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Reply #182 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:16pm
 
Top coal miner Peabody files for bankruptcy


The Australian operations of coal giant Peabody Energy will continue to trade as normal despite the group filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the United States.
The long-expected move comes in the wake of a sharp fall in coal prices that left the company unable to service its debt load of about $US6.3 billion ($8.2 billion), much of which was created during a debt-fuelled expansion into Australia.

"Peabody is a major employer in Australia, with 10 mines and around 3500 workers including contractors. It is Australia's fifth-largest coal producer. Peabody has noted that it views Australia as a core region, particularly with its access to higher-demand Asian markets."

Peabody's debt troubles date back to its $US5.1 billion leveraged buyout of the Ken Talbot-founded Macarthur Coal in 2011, at the peak of the coal boom. Peabody also acquired Tony Haggarty's Excel Coal for $2 billion in 2006.
The deals saw Peabody become a supplier of metallurgical coal for Asian steel mills, but as demand for metallurgical coal fell, particularly in China, Peabody's financial woes intensified.
It made a $US700 million writedown on its Australian metallurgical coal assets last year.

"The factors affecting the global coal industry in recent years have been unprecedented," Peabody acknowledged. "Industry pressures in recent years include a dramatic drop in the price of metallurgical coal, weakness in the Chinese economy, overproduction of domestic shale gas and ongoing regulatory challenges."

http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/top-coal-miner-peabody-files-for-bankruptc...
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As the article says, these factors are "unprecedented", those factors being -
1) Global Demographics
2) Energy - Supply & Pricing (mostly Crude Oil & Coal)
3) Climate Change

The REALITY is that MINING & MANUFACTURING in OZ IS NOW ON THE SLIDE, DUE TO GLOBAL REALITIES AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE MAJOR OZ POLITICAL PARTIES CAN, EXCEPT TRY TO HIDE THE TRUTH, which is what they are both/all doing!
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Reply #183 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:06am:
As usual, those who purport to be Experts (yes - Maqqa & Longy) on Economics, are shown by their silence, to simply be people who formerly thought they were an Economics Exspurts, but who now understand that they are just a drips under pressure!

     


I havent seen maqqa since shorten moved from 16 % and Hamlet started plummeting to the Abyss
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Reply #184 - Apr 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm:
you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?


THIS is the kind of data that gains votes.




what exactly did they do?


Well, they (the Liberals) did pretty much the same as Labor, they just waited for the Baby Boomer Demographics to kick in.

That means the number of Australians aged 65+ will increase by some 85% from 3.1 million to 5.7 million between 2011 and 2031.

Which means approximately an extra 130,000 Per year (on average) will come into retirement age!

So, the increased number of Baby Boomer Retirees will make the Unemployment rate look better than it actually is, until the next Great Recession hits, THEN THE REAL PICTURE WILL QUICKLY BECOME APPARENT!



Of course, variations to the historical Unemployment rates, will be only one of the ramifications, caused by the current once in history Demographic issues!

In addition, amongst others, there will also be some substantial variations to "Historical expectations" surrounding Pension & Medical Expenditure.

In respect of Pensions, at least there will be "some offset", arising from the "Super Guarantee brought in back in the late 1980's. But, that offset will still be considerably short of the mark, as it should have come into effect at last 20 years earlier & it should have gone to at least 15%!

As for the Medical side, it would seem we will be caught well short of where our preparations should be and accordingly almost everyone will pay a price, some more than others, when proper medical service is not available!

Well done, to all of our Pollies, NOT!!!

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Reply #185 - Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:56pm
 
I re-post the following here, as it is relevant!

perceptions_now wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:54pm:
The Global Growth Conundrum


Summary
Global debt has expanded as a percent of GDP since the 2008 fiscal crisis.


In the seven years following the global financial crisis, global growth remains lethargic despite outsized fiscal deficits and increasingly aggressive monetary accommodation. This is leading some financial pundits including Bridgewater's Ray Dalio, for example, to postulate that a long-term supercycle of debt-fueled growth is over. Others including former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers postulate that the U.S. and the world have entered a period of secular stagnation.

With all the attention that has been directed toward the evils of fiscal deficits and profligate spending, the Great Recession and subsequent recovery did nothing to slow the flow of red ink. The McKinsey Global Institute estimates that
in 2000 global debt was about 60% of global GDP
as shown on Chart I.
By 2007 the ratio had climbed to over 150%
and
in 2014 it was about 200%
.

Data for 2015 is not yet available but it was undoubtedly even higher. Over the past seven years of economic recovery debt has grown by more than 5% annually while global GDP expanded by roughly 3% annually.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3966014-global-growth-conundrum?ifp=0
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So, IF Global governments had not elevated Debt levels, THEN WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY?
I suggest, instead of "Flatlining", it would have tanked, as the conditions for automatic Economic Growth increases are no longer available!
All of which means, that at some point "the Sh!t will hit the fan" & it's now purely a matter of timing, as to when it all finally breaks down.
One thing that YOU/WE can all rely on, is that -
THE POLITICIANS (all of them) ARE CONTINUING TO BE TRUTH INHIBITED!!!

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Reply #186 - Apr 27th, 2016 at 1:50pm
 
I re-post this here, as it is relevant!

perceptions_now wrote on Apr 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Simultaneous Elderly Overpopulation, Youth Depopulation And The Impact On Economic Growth


Strangely, the world is suffering from two seemingly opposite actions... overpopulation and depopulation in concert. The overpopulation is due to the increased longevity of elderly lifespans versus depopulation of young populations due to collapsing birthrates.

So, the old are living decades longer than a generation ago, but their adult children are having far fewer children. The economics of this is a complete game changer and is unlike any time previously in the history of mankind.

In a short, yet economically valid manner, every person is a unit of consumption. The greater the number of people and the greater the purchasing power, the greater the growth in consumption.

The chart below is total annual population growth broken down by OECD nations
https://staticseekingalpha.a.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/2016/4/25/saupload_1_thumb1....

The chart below shows global annual population growth by GDP per capita.
https://staticseekingalpha.a.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/2016/4/25/saupload_3_thumb1....

Below, 0-64 year/old annual global population growth versus 0-64 year/old population growth among combined OECD, China, Brazil, and Russia versus global debt growth.
https://staticseekingalpha.a.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/2016/4/25/saupload_5_thumb1....

A look at annual global populations, young versus old (below). The 0-5 year/old population has stalled, but nowhere near so for the 75+ year/old population.
https://staticseekingalpha.a.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/2016/4/25/saupload_6_thumb1....

Conclusion
An economic and financial system premised on perpetual growth was bound to run into trouble (what do you do when you have taken a wrong turn? Apparently, just keep going!). The inevitable deceleration of population growth was the trigger that turned central bankers into pushers offering ever cheaper credit to drive rates of consumption higher, instead of more consumers maintaining consumption. What happens as population growth turns to population decline is honestly and literally a complete and total game changer. Currencies (what will constitute "money"), "free-markets", and perhaps the basis of civilization hang in the balance of the transition from high population growth to potential outright depopulation.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3967636-simultaneous-elderly-overpopulation-yout...
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Agreed, there are certainly issues, relating to Demographics, which are influencing Local & Global Economics!
This has been set up & actually set in concrete, for decades and the early onset can be seen in Japan.
Japan's Population Problem
Low fertility rates and longer life spans are leading to an older and smaller population.
Japan's population is aging and declining. Two main forces are responsible: declining fertility rates and lengthening life spans.
A Low fertility rate and an aging population, imply that the ratio of workers to non-workers will fall.
The consequences are enormous.

These are but some of what we are already experiencing & what await the world, over the next 20-30 years.
The basics being -
1) Demographics, which have been the backstop of Economic Growth, during the modern era and Demographic trends are usually reflected in the Economy some 50 years later.
So, 2006 reflected the Baby Boomer Peak of 1956 & 2014 is now reflecting the end of the Baby Boomer era in 1964, which means Demand will Decline further, as all Boomers now enter their "spendthrift" Retirement years & fewer replacements are following them, as Fertility rates continue to fall in most countries.
2) Peak Energy has arrived, with all Energy commodities having risen thru the roof initially, as Supply was threatened, but Energy Pricing has since gone into serious Decline, caused by Declining Demand, driven largely by Demographics.
The Energy Supply & Demand mix, will continue to ebb & flow!
3) Global Debt is already at historic highs and moves must be made to start the long haul back! This will also add to Demand Decline, not increase Demand!
4) Climate Change, irrespective of whether it is natural or man made, is causing many problems. It is driving up costs, it is set to deliver a Decline in Agricultural Production & in many areas a lack of rainfall will put restrictions on Population increases.
All of which will put a further Decline into Demand!

So, whilst Politicians, Central Bankers & TPTB won't admit it or even talk about it, the Real Global basics will make the Growth "aim" impossible! Our "friendly Pollies", from all Political Party's, say they will "aim" for higher Growth.
But the Reality is, based on Real Facts, they have as much chance of success in achieving their higher Growth "aim", as does a Pig in trying to Fly.
Sorry, to be so blunt, But facts are facts and nothing any Polly will say, is going to make these facts go away!

Thus Taxes must increase, Tax loopholes must be closed & Expenditures must Decrease, in order to start down the path of trying our best to make our future, just a little better than it currently looks.

In order to achieve this aim, ALL SECTIONS OF SOCIETY, INCLUDING BUSINESS, UNIONS & THE TOP 10%, MUST MAKE CHANGES!
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Reply #187 - Apr 27th, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
Greens leader is kickn ass in ABC at the moment
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Reply #188 - Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:17pm
 
Looks like we're in a state of deflation under this government , still inspiring zero confidence it seems  and its looks like interest rates will be cut , what was it joe hockey said about falling interest rates rtards  Grin before presiding over an interest rate cut of his own , oh dear what a complete chit show
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Reply #189 - Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:26pm
 
Major employer.... 3500 workers..... **falls about laughing**.....

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Reply #190 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 9:04am
 
What do the righties think about the economy being a state of deflation under their messiahs watch ?
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Reply #191 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 12:54pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 9:04am:
What do the righties think about the economy being a state of deflation under their messiahs watch ?


Well, I'll leave that for those on the Right, to voice their opinion!

That said, ALL POLITICIANS (BUT PRIMARILY THE MAJOR PARTY'S), THE UNIONS AND TPTB, have contributed over many decades, by their actions & in-action, to where we now find ourselves!!!
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Reply #192 - May 4th, 2016 at 4:48pm
 
I re-post the following here, as it is relevant!

perceptions_now wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 4:45pm:
Budget 2016: Credit Suisse says super changes leave ASX 'worse off'


A tightening in superannuation contributions, as revealed by the Federal Budget on Tuesday, will leave the equity market worse off, says Credit Suisse.
The government plans to tighten up on superannuation tax concessions from next year, reducing the income threshold from $300,000 to $250,000 and capping contributions at $25,000.

"Chances are that a lot of those high income earners who were putting millions into their super are still going to end up putting a lot of their savings into equities because few asset classes offer better returns," said Angus Nicholson, analyst at IG Markets.

That said, the interest rate cut combined with Chinese stimulus and easier global credit market conditions, still leaves Aussie equities as an attractive proposition and Credit Suisse expects the ASX to hit 6000 points by December.

Will we keep the AAA rating?
The release of the budget has eased speculation regarding the sustainability of the country's AAA rating, though ratings agencies have been cautious in their responses. 

http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-2016-credit-suisse-says-sup...
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Well FRANKLY, there's a lot more going on, Than the Australian Budget!!!
In any event, given the Global status, it is much more likely that the ALL ORDS will hit lower than 4,000, rather than hitting higher than 6,000!!!
Also, whilst the OZ Debt to GDP is set to go higher, it is still a lot better off than most other countries. The OZ ratio is now closing in on 35%, whilst most other major countries already being in the 90-100% plus range.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-debt-to-gdp
HOWEVER, the USA, which is over 100% Debt to GDP, still has a AA+ rating, the UK still has a AAA rating whilst it enjoys a Debt to GDP of of some 90% & other major players get equally "favored treatment"!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/rating

So, I would suggest there is a "great deal" going on, about which we are NOT AWARE!!!

In any event, Malcolm is going to the polls, because the longer this election is delayed, the more likely it is that the Global & Local Economy will head South & in a big way & therefore it will adversely affect whomever is in power.

If we come back to the main Economic question of which party can better run the OZ Economy, at this point in time -
THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER IS NEITHER LIBERAL, NOR LABOR, AS WHAT IS HAPPENING IS NOW WELL BEYOND THEIR CONTROL!!!

We should also ask, when were they (any of them)  -
ever interested in what is really in the Best, Long Term interests of All Australians??? 
I suspect it is now many decades, at least!
   
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Reply #193 - May 4th, 2016 at 4:52pm
 
Share market is getting slaughtered today , Libtards being inspirational again , confidence is over the moon in their abilities  Sad
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Reply #194 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:49pm
 
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perceptions_now wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
'Slow Growth Forever' Keeps Dropping Hints


If you've been reading me the past couple years, you know I believe that the slow growth in the global economy is essentially a permanent circumstance. The short thesis is that aging demographics and massive accumulated global debt simply cannot be overcome with easy money. The best we can hope for is slow growth, a smoothing of market forces and a preservation of standard of living. The worst we can expect is the type of depression, social unrest and war that many doom and gloom sellers rant on about.

Today's U.S. employment numbers demonstrate that growth, even on island America, is not likely to accelerate anytime soon past the 1-2% we've been seeing lately.

U.S. employment numbers were not the only thing to look sluggish this week. Nations around the world reported slower growth than wished for.

I'm not going to go on and on about the problems around the world, but I encourage you to Google "slow growth economy" and click the news tab. You'll see dozens of headlines including one from the IMF which outlines well what is going on around the globe.

We clearly have to worry about China's slowing growth and the very real possibility of more disruptions in Europe this summer. It is not far fetched that we see both Brexit and Brexit this year. If either happen, expect major market dislocations.

Someday Japan is going to fall out of bed and emerging markets are struggling with aging demographics already. Many of the nations that once relied on oil exports are also in trouble.

Right now, the markets are operating within a narrow range again. That means we will likely soon see a breakout or a breakdown.

Given the market structure of boomers withdrawing money reducing the demand for stocks and buybacks being the only real source of new demand for stocks, it is becoming increasingly likely we see a correction.
The possibility of another flash crash is very real as once traders sell and shorts pile on, there is nothing to catch the market for hundreds of points to the downside on the S&P 500.

I am remaining cautious and have a small short as a hedge. I know what I want to own coming out of a correction, i.e. our "Very Short List" and ETF list available to subscribers.
I am waiting patiently for an S&P 500 in the 1600s, I think it is extremely likely to happen this year.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/3972542-slow-growth-forever-keeps-dropping-hints...
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Given the current market, I would suggest a 20 "flash crash" would be likely, But also only the starter, for what lies ahead & what lies ahead can largely be blamed on the LIES THAT CAME OVER THE LAST 4-5 DECADES, FROM POLITICIANS OF ALL TYPE, TPTB & UNIONS!
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