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Reply #15 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:03pm
 
Paid parental leave ---- Abbott should dump that one, double quick

He really should

I won't vote for a party which expects me and my family to pay for some woman to fall pregnant then sit at home with the baby it was her decision to have

and I doubt anyone else is inclined to pay someone to have a child


He really needs to dump it
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Reply #16 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:07pm
 
Thumbs up for Comrade Abbott's first step for cradle to grave welfare for everyone.

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Reply #17 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:08pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women ...




And Tony Abbott is quite aware of that.




As is the ALP ?

You are full of pointless wet lettuce arguments.

Abbott is doing it as a political positioning exercise and to be honest it looks like it is working

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Reply #18 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:12pm
 
RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women ...




And Tony Abbott is quite aware of that.




As is the ALP ?




Indeed.

However, the ALP are doing it in the tradition of the welfare state.

Abbott is doing it in the tradition of conservative misogyny, wanting to keep women out of the workforce.  If you believe anything else, you are even more gullible than everyone says you are.

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Reply #19 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:13pm
 
RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women ...




And Tony Abbott is quite aware of that.




As is the ALP ?

You are full of pointless wet lettuce arguments.

Abbott is doing it as a political positioning exercise and to be honest it looks like it is working





It's not working for me

Whoever led Abbott down that path had his demise at heart

A fair go appeals to Aussies in principle

Nothing fair go about forcing the community -- many of whom cannot afford to have children of their own -- to pay for someone else to reproduce or to force employers to fund someone else's groin-fruit and sit at home with it as if they've done something amazing

In any event, I would not have employed females of child-bearing age under this Abbott policy

Then again, twenty odd years ago, the Liberals were openly for getting females out of the work force in order to facilitate more jobs for men

So it's a risky strategy on Liberals' part.  Whilst it might appeal to the Entitlement generation, it won't appeal to most other sectors of the community

It's a vote-loser to far greater degree than a vote-catcher, imo
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Reply #20 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:13pm
 
Swagman wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 10:50am:
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This PPL scheme is being funded (subsidised) by a levy on big business is it not?
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Does the levy cover the full cost? Isn't there a limit on how long the levy will be collected?
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Reply #21 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:18pm
 
Pay for them yourself

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women,



No one under 50 with tits gets a look in when I'm hiring.
Simple.
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Reply #22 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:19pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:13pm:
In any event, I would not have employed females of child-bearing age under this Abbott policy.



And you're not alone.

Abbott would welcome your comment.


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Reply #23 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:20pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Pay for them yourself

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women,



No one under 50 with tits gets a look in when I'm hiring.
Simple.




Wow.  You'd better hope no-one's saving your post

or your imaginary hiring-capacity   Grin   will get you into expensive trouble
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Reply #24 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
# wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:13pm:
Swagman wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 10:50am:
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This PPL scheme is being funded (subsidised) by a levy on big business is it not?
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Does the levy cover the full cost? Isn't there a limit on how long the levy will be collected?


We the taxpayer a scheduled to take over funding when the budget gets back to surplus.

In January that was by Sept 14
In March that was by Sept 16
In Early August that was by EOFY 16/17
Last week its was within 10 years

So no business will always pay it.
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Reply #25 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:26pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:20pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Pay for them yourself

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women,



No one under 50 with tits gets a look in when I'm hiring.
Simple.




Wow.  You'd better hope no-one's saving your post

or your imaginary hiring-capacity   Grin   will get you into expensive trouble



Why?
You don't tell them that, you ask for them to send a resume by email, & cull from there.
Women if DOB supplied easy
Women no DOB supplied maybe phone interview, email few days later
Sorry position filled better luck next time.
Seriously if you know the system its easy to work within it to your advantage/requirements.

Until we get a law that requires 50% of all positions be filled by females I'll continue to hire who I want.
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Reply #26 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
PZ547 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:13pm:
In any event, I would not have employed females of child-bearing age under this Abbott policy.



And you're not alone.

Abbott would welcome your comment.


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As I said above, the Libs were quite openly advocating for far less women in the work force more than twenty years ago

But it's a risky ploy at this stage of the game

The Lima Declaration commenced destroying Australian production and employment back in 1975, when an initial 30% of Aussie jobs and manufacturing were sent overseas

Since then, that 30% has to be close to 75%

Labor and Libs are cognisant of the fact robotics will shave the last few remaining jobs to near nothing.  Just public servants and the service industry

Yes, there are women who have no intention of reproducing and who are excellent employees.  They shouldn't be forced from the workplace by policies which terrify employers into rejecting female applicants/employees

Aussies aren't stupid.  Overwhelmingly, women head single-parent households.  Of course they'd like to stay at home to raise their children.  But the easy-divorce laws which also came into effect in the mid-70s mean many men tire of supporting a family and desert their wives to raise and support the children alone.  All part of the Zionist attack on the vital family-unit

There are women who have to work, even though they'd far rather not.  Abbott's policy does a favour for whom, exactly -- the entitlement-brigade who believe that going to bed and ending up pregnant is everyone else's responsibility ?

There are at least two reasons I won't vote Liberals (a) their disgusting betrayal, corruption and cowardice re: Schapelle Corby and (2) the paid parental leave policy

There are hundreds of reasons I won't be voting Labor
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Reply #27 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm
 
You views on paid parental leave..

It is a very good thing but giving women earning big wages $75,000 for 6 months is ridiculous.
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Reply #28 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 2:11pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 26th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

I'm pretty much over this whole
"mandate"
thing, MYSELF

As the
LibNats
seem pretty much a cert - this election - does that mean they have a
"mandate"
on EVERY election policy ?





Including
scrapping the low income families'
"Schoolkids Bonus"
scheme
- to help fund the high income families'
"Paid Parental Leave"
scheme ?




A lot of
LibNat
voters from the
working class western suburbs
may be surprised to HEAR about this
"mandate"






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Reply #29 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 2:11pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
Pay for them yourself

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Mandating Maternity leave provisions makes employers baulk at hiring women,



No one under 50 with tits gets a look in when I'm hiring.
Simple.


Actually they say at 36 a females fertility is down to 15%..... 40+ is a safe bet

Many career women get shocked at that stat, you leave Uni at 21 ish, it takes you about 5-10 years to establish your career ..... if they suddenly have a desire to have kids you way into the down hill decline.

Even at high 30's artificial can be problematic.

The other problem for younger women is they get over looked for promotion and any roles that are critical ....... adding state mandated maternity leave just gives employers another excuse.

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