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Reply #15 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:15pm

The real interesting thing is that more than one third of ALL the CO2 man has ever emitted has gone into the atmosphere from the year 1998.

But guess what temperatures are falling.

If that's not a case to stop the money manipulators from taxing us on the air we breath, I don't know what is...!!!

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Reply #16 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:21pm

Ajax wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:15pm:

The real interesting thing is that more than one third of ALL the CO2 man has ever emitted has gone into the atmosphere from the year 1998.

But guess what temperatures are falling.

If that's not a case to stop the money manipulators from taxing us on the air we breath, I don't know what is...!!!

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qxvr6b.png

Ajax, posting exactly the same message numerous times is called spamming.

Guess what, temperatures are actually rising despite the fact that solar irradiance has been falling.

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Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2
Reply #17 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:42pm

From the FATHER of global warming, James Hansen

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The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slow down in the growth rate of net climate forcing.

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf

That's a bit strange isn't muso considering one third of all manmade CO2 emissions have been sent up into the atmosphere after 1998.....?????????

Therefore the logical conclusion is,

Yes CO2 is a greenhouse...!!

Yes CO2 does cause warming in the atmosphere...!!!

NO manmade CO2 emissions are not solely responsible for the warming which has been observed in the last century.

It plays a part but a very minute.

Therefore the IPCC's hypothesis is RUBB!SH.

And should be thrown in the trash can.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2 Reply #18 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 10:29pm Your logic is flawed ... and weird.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2 Reply #19 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:31am muso wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 10:29pm: Your logic is flawed ... and weird. How can my logic be flawed when Father of AGW James Hansen IPCC Head Pachauri and the Met office Have all confirmed there has been no warming since 1998..??
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Reply #20 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:51am

Your taking one line out of that paper totally out of context. What does it say immediately after that? Hmmm ?

The graph is from the same paper, and it shows how radiative forcing for CO2 has been increasing.

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How can my logic be flawed?

...because you jumped to this conclusion with no supporting data:

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NO manmade CO2 emissions are not solely responsible for the warming which has been observed in the last century.

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Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2
Reply #21 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:01am

muso wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

Your taking one line out of that paper totally out of context. What does it say immediately after that? Hmmm ?

The graph is from the same paper, and it shows how radiative forcing for CO2 has been increasing.

...because you jumped to this conclusion with no supporting data:

Then why are temperatures dropping....????

We have not surpassed the 1998 value...???

Doesn't make sense does it......???

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Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2
Reply #22 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:38am

I really wouldn't bother with Ajax anymore. He clearly has no interest in the truth of the matter (why else stubbornly repeat the same nonsensical arguments over and over). Its like that first post in the other thread said. It's not that they really disbelieve the science; it's the solution they hate. They have to put themselves out to fix climate change. That's what they can't bear and Ajax's stubborn denials ooze of it.

But having said that, I note that this thread is titled "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2". So tell me muso what do you see happening to the world generally and humanity specifically if say we do nothing for the next 6 years about climate change. And by that I don't mean what effects will we see in 6 years time but rather what will we see in the long term (say by 2050) if we do nothing in the next 6 years. Yu Folla?

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Reply #23 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:39pm

Ajax wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:01am:

muso wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

Your taking one line out of that paper totally out of context. What does it say immediately after that? Hmmm ?

The graph is from the same paper, and it shows how radiative forcing for CO2 has been increasing.

...because you jumped to this conclusion with no supporting data:

Then why are temperatures dropping....????

We have not surpassed the 1998 value...???

Doesn't make sense does it......???

First of all, apologies, I just deleted half your post by accident (I pressed the wrong button)

To answer your question, it makes sense of you read that next section in the paper. You didn't read it.

The graph goes some way to answering your question too.

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Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2
Reply #24 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:53pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:38am:

I really wouldn't bother with Ajax anymore. He clearly has no interest in the truth of the matter (why else stubbornly repeat the same nonsensical arguments over and over). Its like that first post in the other thread said. It's not that they really disbelieve the science; it's the solution they hate. They have to put themselves out to fix climate change. That's what they can't bear and Ajax's stubborn denials ooze of it.

But having said that, I note that this thread is titled "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2". So tell me muso what do you see happening to the world generally and humanity specifically if say we do nothing for the next 6 years about climate change. And by that I don't mean what effects will we see in 6 years time but rather what will we see in the long term (say by 2050) if we do nothing in the next 6 years. Yu Folla?

Well other people have done the hard work on that issue. I'll reply in due course.

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Reply #25 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:01pm

muso wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Well other people have done the hard work on that issue. I'll reply in due course.

So what is this, talk for talk sake? You spend 2 days in futile discussion with a climate change denier pulling out text book responses left right and center (hard work other people have already done) but when it comes time to talk about what we actually do about this disaster you don't have time???? You know, its not all about impressing people. There's some really serious shh!!t underlying it all.

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Re: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric CO2
Reply #26 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:06pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

muso wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Well other people have done the hard work on that issue. I'll reply in due course.

So what is this, talk for talk sake? You spend 2 days in futile discussion with a climate change denier pulling out text book responses left right and center (hard work other people have already done) but when it comes time to talk about what we actually do about this disaster you don't have time???? You know, its not all about impressing people. There's some really serious shh!!t underlying it all.

Work gets in the way sometimes.

OK, let's start a new thread with the effects of rising CO2 and rising global temperature.

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