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Reply #60 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them.

what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

Fined him; the maximum penalty. No questions asked.

An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast.

I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place.

Makes me wonder about his upbringing.

you then greg are the definition of a ignorant Australian that shows no respect to anyone.

a decent Australian would tell him the error of his ways and move on.

complete stupidity.

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Reply #61 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:10pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people.

Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people.
Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people.
What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc? People!

Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place.

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: Australia = Police State Reply #62 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:08pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms. they can all you have to do is show some respect to them.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Australia = Police State Reply #63 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:15pm warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm: what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet. I would have fined him, then asked him to remove his feet. Then fined him again And then pinged him for swearing
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Reply #64 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:17pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people.

Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people.
Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people.
What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc? People!

Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place.

so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways.

fineing them just makes you a prick, and not a decent person.

talking is the way, not punishment. doesn't solve anything.

learn some respect for people.

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Reply #65 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:22pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

I would have fined him, then asked him to remove his feet.
Then fined him again
And then pinged him for swearing Wink

well that's a uncaring attitude isn't it doesn't solve the problem or help anyone out does it.

fine them rather then talk to them.

arrest someone rather then talk to them.

taiser or shoot them rather that talk to them.

doesn't create a friendly attitude does it.

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Reply #66 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:26pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:08pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms.

they can all you have to do is show some respect to them.

No.

They have to earn that respect, by not putting their feet up on the seat on public transport.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Do you put your feet up on seats too?

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Reply #67 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:27pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people.

Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people.
Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people.
What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc? People!

Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place.

so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways.

fineing them just makes you a prick, and not a decent person.

talking is the way, not punishment. doesn't solve anything.

learn some respect for people.

He has already been told not to put his feet on the seat. Remember the picture of the sign on the last page? So since he knew not to do it but he did it anyway, why should he be told again?

That's why there is a fine. It is for those people who show no respect for the rules.

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Reply #68 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

I would have:

1/ Asked the offender to remove his feet from the seat. Compliance = no further action.

2/ Non-compliance and/or an attitude, I would fine.

3/ If attitude/non-compliance continued, the offender would be removed from the train at the next stop.

I only once had to put a bloke (two, actually) off a train, but they were harassing/threatening other passengers, not
just breaching by-laws.

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Reply #69 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them.

what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

Fined him; the maximum penalty. No questions asked.

An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast.

I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place.

Makes me wonder about his upbringing.

you then greg are the definition of a ignorant Australian that shows no respect to anyone.

a decent Australian would tell him the error of his ways and move on.

complete stupidity.

A decent adult would understand that it's not acceptable to put one's feet up on the seat when riding on public transport.

A decent adult would not need to have this explained to them.

As I said, no surprises in the OP then.

(By the way, I don't think you actually know what "ignorant" means.)

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Reply #70 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train?????

From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"?

"Do you have anything to say for the record sir?"

"Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke"

Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine.

Fking police state joke of a country.

Foot on a seat???????!

!!!!!!!!

There are signs throughout the trains stating this is an offence. It is also simple courtesy. I sure don't want to sit on a seat that has muddy shoe prints on it. Too bad!

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Reply #72 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:33pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways.

A young child? Sure. They probably don't know any better yet.

Hicks is an adult, and he tells us that he's a globe-trotting businessman (which I don't believe at all now, anyway).

If he doesn't know the "error of his ways" by now, he needs to learn a hard lesson. I would have fined him, and then thrown him off the train.

What sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat? Seriously?

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Australia = Police State Reply #73 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:38pm Naaaa, gotta agree with Wazza here (and we don’t know the full/true story). Nothing wrong with saying “look mate can you take your feet of the seat please” If they don’t comply then fines can come into it.
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Reply #74 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:53pm

FriYAY wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:

Naaaa, gotta agree with Wazza here (and we don’t know the full/true story).

Nothing wrong with saying “look mate can you take your feet of the seat please” Wink

If they don’t comply then fines can come into it.

Seriously he hasnt said if he was asked and complied or didnt comply first. he wont admit he thought he was too good to do what he was asked.

SOB

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