Australian Politics Forum - Islam and irony

Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21889 A cat with a view	Re: Islam and irony Reply #15 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:16pm Datalife wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:05pm: freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:00pm: http://bp1.blogger.com/_UgnxmbviHxI/R1HxRwQbgiI/AAAAAAAACvI/HecuWU33OVQ/s400/hop... LOL, that bloke has to be taking the piss. Datalife, Ya reckon ??? IMAGE.... "Freedom of expression - GO TO HELL!"
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Reply #16 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

Revelation was narrated to him by the Archangel Gabriel, and he relayed it to his followers by mouth - some of them memorized it, and others wrote it down

How does this account for human error? Just thinking because Muslims believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the old and new testaments were corrupted from their original form?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #17 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 4:20am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 9:35pm:

Obviously a lie. Don't make yadda tell you to google taqiyya again.

Come on Gand. Few things are more in vogue or widely practiced, with Islam's Greek sophist styled entertainers and lying antichrists like Ahmed Deedat and Yusuf estes, than lying.
Just look at what they do to Pslams 84.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1390996044
Let alone the First Epistle of John.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm

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Truth can never be told so as to be understood and not be believed. ~ William Blake

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islam and irony Reply #18 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:57am freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:00pm: http://bp1.blogger.com/_UgnxmbviHxI/R1HxRwQbgiI/AAAAAAAACvI/HecuWU33OVQ/s400/hop... And whatever you do, DON'T LAUGH! That will only hurt their feelings. And you know what happens when you hurt their feelings.... So no laffing, or even sniggering (if you know what's goo for you) .
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Reply #19 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

Revelation was narrated to him by the Archangel Gabriel, and he relayed it to his followers by mouth - some of them memorized it, and others wrote it down

How does this account for human error? Just thinking because Muslims believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the old and new testaments were corrupted from their original form?

Like all religions a fairly large leap of faith is required. It is not really intended for scientific scrutiny*, although its certainly not something thats beyond the bounds of possibility. But the point is, it all comes down to muslims believing that it was passed down flawlessly into the form we have today - because thats what God intended to happen.

* as an interesting aside, during the Islamic golden age when islamic philosophy became dominated by a scientific approach, there emerged a dominant idea amongst islamic scholars that the quran was in fact not divine, but man-made

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam and irony Reply #20 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:20pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm: there emerged a dominant idea amongst islamic scholars that the quran was in fact not divine, but man-made Not even divinely inspired? What happened to this view? Abu liked to blame the area's degeneration on drifting from the Koran.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam and irony Reply #21 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:21pm The picture of the protestor has been photoshopped. This is the original:
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam and irony Reply #22 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:27pm freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:20pm: What happened to this view? I am at this very moment charging my kindle so I can look up the book I read it in.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam and irony Reply #23 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:31pm Perhaps they all underwent headerectomies.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam and irony Reply #24 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:43pm what is a headerectomy?
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Reply #25 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 2:06pm

IMAGE...

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

The picture of the protestor has been photoshopped. This is the original:

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-7.jpg

gandalf,

These Google hits have not been 'photoshopped'.

Google;
"Death to the Pope for Calling Us Violent"

http://abbagav.blogspot.com.au/2006/09/death-to-pope-for-calling-us-violent.html

MUSLIMS ARE SELF DECEIVERS
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226196753/0#0
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MUSLIMS...

"DO NOT CALL US VIOLENT, OR WE WILL KILL YOU."

Saturday, September 16, 2006
The "Death to the Pope for Calling Us Violent" Protests
"......Many Islamist activists are so perturbed that they've taken to the streets to proclaim their seething anger at the Pope for questioning their pacifism."
http://abbagav.blogspot.com/2006/09/death-to-pope-for-calling-us-violent.html

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Islam and irony Reply #26 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 2:22pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:21pm: The picture of the protestor has been photoshopped. This is the original: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-7.jpg LOL, well clearly that is much better.
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Reply #27 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 2:30pm

Datalife wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

LOL, well clearly that is much better.

not really.

Anyway, for those who are interested - you can read all about the islamic philosophy that states (among other things) that the Quran is man made and not the eternal word of God:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27tazila

http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ip/rep/H052

http://hangingodes.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/creation-of-quran-a-mutazilite-persp...

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam and irony Reply #28 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:33pm Do any of those links claim that this view became dominant among Islamic scholars during the "golden" age?
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Reply #29 - Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

The picture of the protestor has been photoshopped. This is the original:

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-7.jpg

That's alright, then!
Much better!

Round and round we go in the placard wars and the cartoon wars. And all the time, the underlying problem goes unaddressed. When debating whether Islam is a "religion of peace", the scales-falling-from-eyes moment comes when it becomes clear that everybody on all sides of the debate – Muslim and non-Muslim, believers that Islam is a religion of peace and those who believe that it is not – are all the subject to some degree of threat to their lives.

Islam is a very dangerous topic to discuss
. THAT is the point Gandy.

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