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Reply #30 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Fits a pattern of war crimes by ADF.

I think it's ok, the ADF gives the families of the victims $200 in compensation.

Oh! how we cry when their cousins blow up tall buildings or hack a blokes head off in retaliation.

Do we really think there will be no retaliation for Syria? What goes around comes around.

Remember karma folks!.....sweet!!!!

So you are basically admitting to looking forward to the day when some muzzy wackjob walks into a public area in Australia and blows it up, killing dozens or possibly hundreds of civilians. It will just be Karma and you will find it sweet.

If what you just said can have any other interpretation I am happy to hear it.

pansi is just a maggot. not worth the effort to step on.

Yes. The hatred she has towards the west, and the naive love she has towards southern Asia as well as the Muslim world is amazing. I don't think I have encountered anyone else who has such hatred for (supposedly) their own nation.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5425 Gender:	Re: ADF Breaks Geneva Conventions Reply #31 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:39pm I understand the logic behind taking just the hands for fingerprint ID, rather than humping the whole corpse, but I am puzzled by the fingerprint requirement in the first place. Does the average insurgent actually have his prints on file for comparison? If not it seems rather a waste of time and effort.
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Reply #32 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:49pm

Karma is sweet, is it not?

I don't look forward to anyone getting killed or injured, what a ridiculous thing to say. I am a humanitarian, anti war, pro peace, make of that what you will.

I was just saying you should be careful what you wish on others, lest it comes back to bite you.

Don't forget the Australian/Lebanese that are fighting with Al Qeada in Syria will return home one day. To think it won't have any effect here at some time is naive.

Could you please point out the phrase where I am happy for Aussies to be killed, because I don't ever recall saying or even thinking such a thing.....thankyou.

You guys supported the wars in the ME so don't try to pretend you are anti death. You feel so sorry for the ADF personnel, you would send them to another war?????

Treat others as you would like to be treated. If the ADF want to act the same way as Al Qeada, then don't complain when it is returned in kind.
If you are happy to mutilate bodies, then you must also be happy to have it happen to you, otherwise you wouldn't do it.

If the Taliban take our dead soldiers body parts for identification or whatever else purposes, we cannot complain because we have done it to them. Remember payback?

Now spin that rightards!

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Reply #33 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:58pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Karma is sweet, is it not?

I don't look forward to anyone getting killed or injured, what a ridiculous thing to say. I am a humanitarian, anti war, pro peace, make of that what you will.

I was just saying you should be careful what you wish on others, lest it comes back to bite you.

Don't forget the Australian/Lebanese that are fighting with Al Qeada in Syria will return home one day. To think it won't have any effect here at some time is naive.

Could you please point out the phrase where I am happy for Aussies to be killed, because I don't ever recall saying or even thinking such a thing.....thankyou.

You guys supported the wars in the ME so don't try to pretend you are anti death. You feel so sorry for the ADF personnel, you would send them to another war?????

Treat others as you would like to be treated. If the ADF want to act the same way as Al Qeada, then don't complain when it is returned in kind.
If you are happy to mutilate bodies, then you must also be happy to have it happen to you, otherwise you wouldn't do it.

If the Taliban take our dead soldiers body parts for identification or whatever else purposes, we cannot complain because we have done it to them. Remember payback?

Now spin that rightards!

The Coalition is packing up as we speak. The Taliban are going to start killing woman and children . They'll put Afghanistan back a thousand years. How do you feel about that?

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Reply #34 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:00pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:21pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 1:56pm:

So cutting the hand off a corpse is FUNNY?

I would expect nothing less from the usual suspects, but Kat.....I had some respect for you.

It's gone now.

What is funny is the issue that is made of this. The information that we have so far is that the ADF attempts to identify insurgents that have been killed by collecting finger prints when safe to do so. In this situation it was considered safer to remove the hands of the corpse and identify the finger prints later than doing it on the spot. Not the most pleasant of procedures, but it is not mutilating a corpse just for the fun of it.

We are losing touch with all reason when you can shoot an enemy dead in war and that's fine, but then get in trouble for cutting the hands off the corpse to identify the body. Once the former is permitted then the latter really becomes rather irrelevant as far as treatment of another goes.

exactly. it is war after all against soldiers who don't wear a uniform and who under the Geneva convention are afforded ZERO PROTECTIONS. against an enemy that pre-emptively attacked the west and killed civilians. frankly, the Taliban get treated a whole lot better than they deserve. 100 years ago an invading army with the power of NATO would just level the entire country and eliminate every single person there. Be grateful for the way we treat enemies now.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24976 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: ADF Breaks Geneva Conventions Reply #35 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:01pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 1:20pm: No way! Our troops would never do that. They cut their own hands off, right after they shot themselves. I always thought that after bazooka-ing themselves, they wouldn't need to cut their own hands off.
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Reply #36 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:01pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Fits a pattern of war crimes by ADF.

I think it's ok, the ADF gives the families of the victims $200 in compensation.

Oh! how we cry when their cousins blow up tall buildings or hack a blokes head off in retaliation.

Do we really think there will be no retaliation for Syria? What goes around comes around.

Remember karma folks!.....sweet!!!!

So you are basically admitting to looking forward to the day when some muzzy wackjob walks into a public area in Australia and blows it up, killing dozens or possibly hundreds of civilians. It will just be Karma and you will find it sweet.

If what you just said can have any other interpretation I am happy to hear it.

pansi is just a maggot. not worth the effort to step on.

Yes. The hatred she has towards the west, and the naive love she has towards southern Asia as well as the Muslim world is amazing. I don't think I have encountered anyone else who has such hatred for (supposedly) their own nation.

she is the kind of person who should be forcibly emigrated to Pakistan and see how much she loves their 'equality' and social welfare.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #37 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:14pm

Big Dave wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:58pm:

The Coalition is packing up as we speak. The Taliban are going to start killing woman and children . They'll put Afghanistan back a thousand years. How do you feel about that?

Afghanistan has never been a modern civilization, they were killing women and children before the invasion and no doubt this will continue after the last troops pull out.

What has the war accomplished? apart from a lot of civilian casualties from both the coalition of the killing and the Muslim radicals.

Who installed the Taliban as a political party? Who funded their office in Qatar? Who is sending them off to fight in other regions?

The women of Afghanistan will have to take charge of their own futures and this could take another hundred years, but there's nothing the west can do, except make the problem worse.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #38 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:01pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Fits a pattern of war crimes by ADF.

I think it's ok, the ADF gives the families of the victims $200 in compensation.

Oh! how we cry when their cousins blow up tall buildings or hack a blokes head off in retaliation.

Do we really think there will be no retaliation for Syria? What goes around comes around.

Remember karma folks!.....sweet!!!!

So you are basically admitting to looking forward to the day when some muzzy wackjob walks into a public area in Australia and blows it up, killing dozens or possibly hundreds of civilians. It will just be Karma and you will find it sweet.

If what you just said can have any other interpretation I am happy to hear it.

pansi is just a maggot. not worth the effort to step on.

Yes. The hatred she has towards the west, and the naive love she has towards southern Asia as well as the Muslim world is amazing. I don't think I have encountered anyone else who has such hatred for (supposedly) their own nation.

she is the kind of person who should be forcibly emigrated to Pakistan and see how much she loves their 'equality' and social welfare.

Is your problem with my argument or your comprehension skills?

Looking back over what I wrote and the way you've answered, I'd say it's a lack of comprehension on your part.

You do know that I love Australia, I'm just ashamed of what it has become, that's why I fight against its slip into moral decay.

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #39 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:20pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:14pm:

Big Dave wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:58pm:

The Coalition is packing up as we speak. The Taliban are going to start killing woman and children . They'll put Afghanistan back a thousand years. How do you feel about that?

Afghanistan has never been a modern civilization, they were killing women and children before the invasion and no doubt this will continue after the last troops pull out.

What has the war accomplished? apart from a lot of civilian casualties from both the coalition of the killing and the Muslim radicals.

Who installed the Taliban as a political party? Who funded their office in Qatar? Who is sending them off to fight in other regions?

The women of Afghanistan will have to take charge of their own futures and this could take another hundred years, but there's nothing the west can do, except make the problem worse.

The sisterhood in action...

let them be raped and executed and sit by and do nothing about it because.... 'I am a coward and my fellow women don't really interest me'

you are a maggot.

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Reply #40 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:21pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:14pm:

Big Dave wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:58pm:

The Coalition is packing up as we speak. The Taliban are going to start killing woman and children . They'll put Afghanistan back a thousand years. How do you feel about that?

Afghanistan has never been a modern civilization, they were killing women and children before the invasion and no doubt this will continue after the last troops pull out.

What has the war accomplished? apart from a lot of civilian casualties from both the coalition of the killing and the Muslim radicals.

Who installed the Taliban as a political party? Who funded their office in Qatar? Who is sending them off to fight in other regions?

The women of Afghanistan will have to take charge of their own futures and this could take another hundred years, but there's nothing the west can do, except make the problem worse.

Women and girls have an education in most parts of Afghanistan at the moment. Kabul even has a shopping mall. Women are in politics and the media. To say that nothing positive has come out of putting the Taliban out of power is just silly. How do women in Afghanistan forge out a future with a gun pointed at them. I feel sorry for their futures. I hate seeing fanatics bugger the lives of little children up.

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Reply #41 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:22pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:01pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Fits a pattern of war crimes by ADF.

I think it's ok, the ADF gives the families of the victims $200 in compensation.

Oh! how we cry when their cousins blow up tall buildings or hack a blokes head off in retaliation.

Do we really think there will be no retaliation for Syria? What goes around comes around.

Remember karma folks!.....sweet!!!!

So you are basically admitting to looking forward to the day when some muzzy wackjob walks into a public area in Australia and blows it up, killing dozens or possibly hundreds of civilians. It will just be Karma and you will find it sweet.

If what you just said can have any other interpretation I am happy to hear it.

pansi is just a maggot. not worth the effort to step on.

Yes. The hatred she has towards the west, and the naive love she has towards southern Asia as well as the Muslim world is amazing. I don't think I have encountered anyone else who has such hatred for (supposedly) their own nation.

she is the kind of person who should be forcibly emigrated to Pakistan and see how much she loves their 'equality' and social welfare.

Is your problem with my argument or your comprehension skills?

Looking back over what I wrote and the way you've answered, I'd say it's a lack of comprehension on your part.

You do know that I love Australia, I'm just ashamed of what it has become, that's why I fight against its slip into moral decay.

only as long as that 'fight' doesn't involve actual fighting or supporting some poor 7yo brown girl in Afghanistan who is raped and butchered for wanting to learn to read. Cowardly people like you make me want to vomit.

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Reply #42 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:29pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Karma is sweet, is it not?

I don't look forward to anyone getting killed or injured, what a ridiculous thing to say. I am a humanitarian, anti war, pro peace, make of that what you will.

As long as I have known you, that every time an Aussie soldier has been killed serving his country, it has managed to perk you up to the point where you can Laugh Out Loud somewhere in his death notice posting.

Everyone else sends condolances and manages to mention RIP, not you it's always a big fvcken LOL for you.

You have a deep hatred for our country and especially those who serve, and the replies to your protests of innocence prove what Im saying.

You are a vile hateful person and always have been.

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Reply #43 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:43pm

Should we be in Saudi Arabia, where women also have no rights? They are stoned to death without trial or justice. That's America's biggest allie, shame about that.

America is on record as saying that's the ideal model to follow in the Midlle East.

How can you praise one and condemn the other.

What about typing in 'abuse against females in the American defence forces'?

At the end of the day you just can't wage a war every time there's injustices.

Do you people even remember the sexist and misogynist comments you said about Gillard when she was PM? and now you have the hide to worry about the plight of women.

More people have been killed during the invasion than the ten years prior, how's that helping? now we bail out and leave them at the mercy of the Taliban. I just can't praise those efforts.

I read a protest sign

Peace through bombing
is like smacking for vaginity

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Reply #44 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:50pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:43pm:

Should we be in Saudi Arabia, where women also have no rights? They are stoned to death without trial or justice. That's America's biggest allie, shame about that.

America is on record as saying that's the ideal model to follow in the Midlle East.

How can you praise one and condemn the other.

What about typing in 'abuse against females in the American defence forces'?

At the end of the day you just can't wage a war every time there's injustices.

Do you people even remember the sexist and misogynist comments you said about Gillard when she was PM? and now you have the hide to worry about the plight of women.

More people have been killed during the invasion than the ten years prior, how's that helping? now we bail out and leave them at the mercy of the Taliban. I just can't praise those efforts.

I read a protest sign

Peace through bombing
is like smacking for vaginity

and it is your simple naïve stupidity that thinks that sign even makes sense. the violence of Hitler and Tojo were ended by BOMBINGS. the atomic BOMB ensure the cold war remained cold.

you are a stupid stupid person who has very little idea how the real world works and still you are happy for little girls to be raped and murdered rather than fight to protect them. You disgust me.

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