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Re: Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming
Reply #30 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 10:56am
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
# wrote on Sep 1st, 2013 at 9:01pm:
Ajax wrote on Sep 1st, 2013 at 10:31am:
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There not opinions by some part time climate enthusiasts like over at sceptical science blog.
Substantiate your assertion. Quote one posting on http://skepticalscience.com/ that isn't based on peer reviewed science.
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Hey dude at the end of every page on sceptical science blog there is a section where people send in their comments.

I don't know about now but last time I had a look many comments where against the article or the information being presented.
Which supports your assertion how?

Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
But I have heard that if sceptical science is losing out right they delete the comments.
Further unsubstantiated assertion substantiates your earlier unsubstantiated assertion, in what way?

I've no doubt that some posts are deleted. That can be because the post is abusive, defamatory, SPAM or other legitimate reasons. The site naturally attracts denialist SPAM. Your assertion that it happens only "if sceptical science is losing out right" is unsubstantiated.

Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
Now what happen to my threads, why are some being closed....??? 
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375841990/129#129

Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
And why are others being modified......???
As I understand it, some words are verboten. The forum software automatically traps them. Alternatively, you could be imagining things.

Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
Seriously gentlemen the moderator should not be biased but neutral.
The moderator needs to know a bit about what they're moderating. One of the duties of moderation is to protect readers. Allowing your climate science denial to go unchallenged would violate that responsibility.

Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
So how is it that this forum has alarmists running the Environmental section.........??????
Definitions of "alarmist" generally refer to unjustified, unwarranted or excessive alarm. How is reporting the views of the vast majority of the best qualified alarmist?

As you've not been able to substantiate your beliefs, this might ease your concerns: Quote:
Skeptical Science (occasionally abbreviated SkS) is a climate science blog and information resource created in 2007 by Australian blogger and author John Cook. In addition to publishing articles on current events relating to climate science and climate policy, the site maintains a large database of articles analyzing the merit of arguments commonly put forth by those involved in the global warming controversy who oppose the mainstream scientific opinion on climate change.
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After reading a 2007 speech by US Senator James Inhofe who claimed that global warming is a hoax, John Cook created Skeptical Science to be an internet resource that examined the scientific support of the most common arguments against mainstream scientific opinion. The site currently maintains over 160 articles addressing the merit of common criticisms of the scientific consensus on global warming, such as the claim that solar activity (rather than greenhouse gases) is responsible for most 20th-century global warming. Each article, referred to as an "argument", first presents a quotation from a prominent figure who made a direct claim regarding global warming, then follows with a summary of "what the science says".

Rather than fully qualifying each claim, the site focuses mainly on challenging it by citing counterexamples for why it is incorrect, and structuring these examples into an overall rebuttal of the original claim. The site primarily gains the content for these articles from relevant peer reviewed scientific papers. Many articles have been translated into several languages, and are split into up to three levels of technical depth. Rather than active advertising or media relationships, Cook has focused on structuring the site primarily for optimization in search engine results.

The home page of the site also features blog posts by a number of regular and guest contributors, which may be new rebuttals of a certain argument or simply the blogger's view on a relevant climate news item. Like the rebuttals, the blog entries tend to hold a consistent tone that the scientific opinion on anthropogenic global warming is generally accurate.
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Skeptical Science has become a well-known resource for people seeking to understand or debate climate change, and has been praised for its straightforwardness. Marine biologist Ove Hoegh-Guldberg has described it as "the most prominent knowledge-based website dealing with climate change in the world", and The Washington Post has praised it as the "most prominent and detailed" website to counter arguments by global warming skeptics. In September 2011, the site won the 2011 Eureka Prize from the Australian Museum in the category of Advancement of Climate Change Knowledge.

Cook is trained as a solar physicist ...

Skeptical Science is affiliated with no political, business, or charitable entity.
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Reply #31 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 12:22pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
And why are others being modified......???



If you're talking about your posts being modified, that happened only once by accident, and I openly apologised for it immediately.

It's easy to do because as a moderator, there are two buttons very close to each other. One is "Modify" and the other is "Quote". Sometimes when using an HD monitor, it's easy to click the wrong one, then realise after its too late.  Other mods have had the same problem.

I also sometimes fix typos or grammatical errors on my own posts after the event and I have a bad habit of adding to a post when I think of something extra. You can do the same.
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Reply #32 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 5:43pm
 
muso wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 12:22pm:
Ajax wrote on Sep 2nd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
And why are others being modified......???



If you're talking about your posts being modified, that happened only once by accident, and I openly apologised for it immediately.

It's easy to do because as a moderator, there are two buttons very close to each other. One is "Modify" and the other is "Quote". Sometimes when using an HD monitor, it's easy to click the wrong one, then realise after its too late.  Other mods have had the same problem.

I also sometimes fix typos or grammatical errors on my own posts after the event and I have a bad habit of adding to a post when I think of something extra. You can do the same.


The bottom line is a moderator shouldn't be biased...??!!
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Reply #33 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 7:41pm
 
I haven't deleted any of your posts, and if you make a valid point, I will agree with you.

If you were a poster on a forum on the topic of Geology, and started topics on the Flat Earth Society, do you think that the moderator would have no position on established geology?
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

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Why we don't believe the world is round
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Reply #34 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:46pm
 
muso wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 7:41pm:
I haven't deleted any of your posts, and if you make a valid point, I will agree with you.

If you were a poster on a forum on the topic of Geology, and started topics on the Flat Earth Society, do you think that the moderator would have no position on established geology?
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

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Please.....the science of Anthropogenic Global Warming is far from settled.

As we will see in the coming years, it will be proven a fairy tale invented by the elite and supported by the greens to tax us on the air we breath.
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Reply #35 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 2:10pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:46pm:
muso wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 7:41pm:
I haven't deleted any of your posts, and if you make a valid point, I will agree with you.

If you were a poster on a forum on the topic of Geology, and started topics on the Flat Earth Society, do you think that the moderator would have no position on established geology?
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

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Why a Flat Earth?

Why we don't believe the world is round
Scientific data and measurements backing up our claims




Please.....the science of Anthropogenic Global Warming is far from settled.

As we will see in the coming years, it will be proven a fairy tale invented by the elite and supported by the greens to tax us on the air we breath.


Thats a rather paranoid conspiracy you have there batman.

What elements of the science that underpinns AGW confuses you so much?

Can you refer to any global or national scientific body, university, research organization, scientific society etc or major corporation that refutes the high school level AGW science that is also validated by measurement and experimentation?

Take your mask off batman, its embarrassing listening to your pathetic pseudo scientific drivel
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Reply #36 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 2:20pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:46pm:
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As we will see in the coming years, it will be proven a fairy tale invented by the elite and supported by the greens to tax us on the air we breath.

Back to conspiracy theories.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:46pm
 
# wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 2:20pm:
Ajax wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:46pm:
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As we will see in the coming years, it will be proven a fairy tale invented by the elite and supported by the greens to tax us on the air we breath.

Back to conspiracy theories.  Roll Eyes


Your religion is going to fall apart because its based on lies.
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How can you trust John Cook & skeptical science ??
Reply #38 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:08pm
 
Mr. John Cook cant even tell the truth about the consensus.

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Dear Professor Høy,

I was struck by a recent paper published in Environmental Research Letters with John Cook, a University of Queensland employee, as the lead author. The paper purports to estimate the degree of agreement in the literature on climate change. Consensus is not an argument, of course, but my attention was drawn to the fact that the headline conclusion had no confidence interval, that the main validity test was informal, and that the sample contained a very large number of irrelevant papers while simultaneously omitting many relevant papers.

My interest piqued, I wrote to Mr Cook asking for the underlying data and received 13% of the data by return email. I immediately requested the remainder, but to no avail.

I found that the consensus rate in the data differs from that reported in the paper. Further research showed that, contrary to what is said in the paper, the main validity test in fact invalidates the data. And the sample of papers does not represent the literature. That is, the main finding of the paper is incorrect, invalid and unrepresentative.


Read the rest here
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/08/richard-tol-half-cooks-data-still-hidden-rest-s...
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Reply #39 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:16pm
 
Ajax wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:08pm:

Of Jo Nova, Sourcewatch says Quote:
Joanne Nova aka JoNova (real name Joanne Codling), born circa 1967, is an Australian right wing communicator who mainly writes to promote anti-science views of climate in books and a denialist weblog, joannenova.com.au. She has no evident academic background in climate science; her degree (B.Sc.) is in molecular biology.
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Nova runs the Australian company Science Speak,[2] the main aim of which is to promote AGW denialism.
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Reply #40 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:46pm
 
# wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:16pm:
Ajax wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:08pm:

Of Jo Nova, Sourcewatch says Quote:
Joanne Nova aka JoNova (real name Joanne Codling), born circa 1967, is an Australian right wing communicator who mainly writes to promote anti-science views of climate in books and a denialist weblog, joannenova.com.au. She has no evident academic background in climate science; her degree (B.Sc.) is in molecular biology.
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Nova runs the Australian company Science Speak,[2] the main aim of which is to promote AGW denialism.


You guys really have the craft of character assassination down to a fine point don't you.

Do you know that Jo was once on your side running around the country side for the greens party telling every that manmade AGW was indeed real.

She was one that also searched for the truth and when she came across it she knew it......... Cool

If anyone wants to know the truth about Antropogenic Global Warming.......?

Then Jo's site tells it like it is, nothing but the truth.....!!!
http://joannenova.com.au/
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Reply #41 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:17pm
 
Are you Dave Evans? No can't be.  Dave has a degree in Maths.

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Do you know that Jo was once on your side running around the country side for the greens party telling every that manmade AGW was indeed real.


.. and then she met Dave Evans , and they lived happily ever after in a state of mutual denial.
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How can you trust John Cook?


- because his arguments are based on facts that can easily  be verified.
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Reply #42 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 12:52pm
 
muso wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:17pm:
Are you Dave Evans? No can't be.  Dave has a degree in Maths.

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Do you know that Jo was once on your side running around the country side for the greens party telling every that manmade AGW was indeed real.


.. and then she met Dave Evans , and they lived happily ever after in a state of mutual denial.
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How can you trust John Cook?


- because his arguments are based on facts that can easily  be verified.


Easily the most discredited piece since that hockey stick fantasy. You should be ashamed of yourself Muso for being sucked in by this complete and utter twattery.  The paper is a disgrace.

Bullocking reproduced on many websites, see one of your favourites WUWT - shows exactly what the social sciences and peer pal review has degenerated to.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/28/cooks-97-climate-consensus-paper-crumbles-upon-examination/
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Reply #43 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 2:24pm
 
Rider wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 12:52pm:
Easily the most discredited piece since that hockey stick fantasy. You should be ashamed of yourself Muso for being sucked in by this complete and utter twattery.  The paper is a disgrace.

Bullocking reproduced on many websites, see one of your favourites WUWT - shows exactly what the social sciences and peer pal review has degenerated to.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/28/cooks-97-climate-consensus-paper-crumbles-upon-examination/


Which paper are you talking about? Did I mention a paper?
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Reply #44 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:10pm
 
muso wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 2:24pm:
Rider wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 12:52pm:
Easily the most discredited piece since that hockey stick fantasy. You should be ashamed of yourself Muso for being sucked in by this complete and utter twattery.  The paper is a disgrace.

Bullocking reproduced on many websites, see one of your favourites WUWT - shows exactly what the social sciences and peer pal review has degenerated to.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/28/cooks-97-climate-consensus-paper-crumbles-upon-examination/


Which paper are you talking about? Did I mention a paper?


Read the OP dude...??
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