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Reply #75 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

Oh and that paper - I already answered the claim elsewhere. It's an incredibly stupid claim - that because a paper didn't include the word "dangerous", it didn't agree with the UN conclusion.

Position: It is dangerous to put your hand in a fire.

1. Putting your hand in a fire may have dangerous consequences, including serious burns.

2. Putting your hand in a fire is likely to result in serious burns.

By the logic of the paper, only Statement 1 agrees with the original position, because it includes the word "dangerous"..

That's how silly Willy is.

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Reply #76 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:33pm:

Oh and that paper - I already answered the claim elsewhere. It's an incredibly stupid claim - that because a paper didn't include the word "dangerous", it didn't agree with the UN conclusion.

Position: It is dangerous to put your hand in a fire.

1. Putting your hand in a fire may have dangerous consequences, including serious burns.

2. Putting your hand in a fire is likely to result in serious burns.

By the logic of the paper, only Statement 1 agrees with the original position, because it includes the word "dangerous"..

That's how silly Willy is.

Four prominent scientists have produced a pear reviewed paper saying Mr. Cooks math is out of wack and you're still defending him.

Go figure....... Cheesy

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Reply #77 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Ajax wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

Science is not about consensus...??

Glad you realise that. Science is not about consensus of opinion. It's about factual evidence. This paper is about consensus of opinion. Therefore it's irrelevent - even if it was reviewed by a peach as you say.

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Its about being sceptical all the time....!!!....whether you agree or not....?????

You should try it. The first step is to answer the questions. Ruthlessly question the basis of your pet theories. Pet theories are feral, rabid creatures. They will bite you and turn you into a raving lunatic.

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Yeah sorry muso...but, right back at ya....

And using a medical condition as a reason to discount an argument is pretty pathetic...

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Reply #78 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:08pm

Medical condition? Oh yes, you mean his mental health I take it.

He doesn't really react to many stimuli. You see, he's a raving looney, as more people in the UK already know.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

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I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a Member "without the right to sit or vote".

I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a Member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not.

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Reply #79 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:35pm

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:08pm:

Medical condition? Oh yes, you mean his mental health I take it.

He doesn't really react to many stimuli. You see, he's a raving looney, as more people in the UK already know.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

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I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a Member "without the right to sit or vote".

I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a Member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not.

Umm no, using the fact that Lord Monckton suffers from Graves disease (his 'bug eyes' ) as a reason to dismiss his opinion on AGW is pathetic..(which is why you post his photo whenever you make reference to him)

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Reply #80 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:44pm

In this case, I was warning Ajax of the perils of Pet Theories, and the fact that if he wasn't careful, he could end up as a raving nutjob. Naturally, I posted a picture of a raving nutjob as an illustration. His eye condition is totally incidental to the fact that he's a raving looney.

If I had meant that Ajax could have gone blind, then I would have said so.

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Reply #81 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:44am

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:44pm:

In this case, I was warning Ajax of the perils of Pet Theories, and the fact that if he wasn't careful, he could end up as a raving nutjob. Naturally, I posted a picture of a raving nutjob as an illustration. His eye condition is totally incidental to the fact that he's a raving looney.

If I had meant that Ajax could have gone blind, then I would have said so.

There is nothing wrong with Lord Monckton theories on AGW.

He's actually right on the ball.

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Reply #83 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:11am

Ajax wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:44am:

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:44pm:

In this case, I was warning Ajax of the perils of Pet Theories, and the fact that if he wasn't careful, he could end up as a raving nutjob. Naturally, I posted a picture of a raving nutjob as an illustration. His eye condition is totally incidental to the fact that he's a raving looney.

If I had meant that Ajax could have gone blind, then I would have said so.

There is nothing wrong with Lord Monckton theories on AGW.

He's actually right on the ball.

I suppose you went to his rally in Australia.
http://denialdepot.blogspot.com.au/2009/11/450-peer-reviewed-papers-to-support.h...

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450 Peer-Reviewed Papers To Support Your Arguments Against So-Called "science"

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Reply #84 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

muso wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

Ajax wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:44am:

muso wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:44pm:

In this case, I was warning Ajax of the perils of Pet Theories, and the fact that if he wasn't careful, he could end up as a raving nutjob. Naturally, I posted a picture of a raving nutjob as an illustration. His eye condition is totally incidental to the fact that he's a raving looney.

If I had meant that Ajax could have gone blind, then I would have said so.

There is nothing wrong with Lord Monckton theories on AGW.

He's actually right on the ball.

I suppose you went to his rally in Australia.
http://denialdepot.blogspot.com.au/2009/11/450-peer-reviewed-papers-to-support.h...

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450 Peer-Reviewed Papers To Support Your Arguments Against So-Called "science"

If you can listen to that fraudster John Cook over at skeptical science.

And help Al Gore get rich from his carbon credit franchise.

There is nothing more to be said...... Shocked

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Reply #85 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 4:44pm So you disagree with the paper I linked? I thought it would have been right up your street.
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Re: Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming
Reply #86 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 12:49pm

muso wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 4:44pm:

So you disagree with the paper I linked? I thought it would have been right up your street.

You really make me laugh you know that...!!

Always trying to twist or distort what others have said to your inclinations.

Sad.............................................!!!

And you call yourself a scientist......????

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Reply #87 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

muso wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 4:44pm:

So you disagree with the paper I linked? I thought it would have been right up your street.

You really make me laugh you know that...!!

Always trying to twist or distort what others have said to your inclinations.

Sad.............................................!!!

And you call yourself a scientist......????

I've started a thread on Denial Depot.

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Reply #88 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:12pm

muso wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

muso wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 4:44pm:

So you disagree with the paper I linked? I thought it would have been right up your street.

You really make me laugh you know that...!!

Always trying to twist or distort what others have said to your inclinations.

Sad.............................................!!!

And you call yourself a scientist......????

I've started a thread on Denial Depot.

Do you want a medal......?????

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Reply #89 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:36pm

I thought you would enjoy some of the articles on Denial Depot. They don't seem to like Al Gore.

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We stand unimpressed by "textbooks", "peer review journals" and so-called "facts". There are no facts, just dissenting opinion. We are infinitely small compared to nature and can't grasp anything as certain as a fact.

Nothing is settled and we should question everything. The debate is NOT over Gore! When so-called "experts" in their "peer reviewed journals" say one thing, we dare the impossible and find imaginative ways to believe something else entirely.

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