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Reply #15 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 8:07am

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Is a burqa confronting?

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My wife Mohammed inists on me wearing the burpa while outdoors. If women get a mere glimpse of my hair I am in danger of being raped. Just the other day a woman was leering at me and she chased me when I got off the train. I made it home - just - in one piece and looked in the mirror to see what was driving that mad woman crazy. Sure 'nuff some of my nose hair was visible. My hair is so hot it can start a bushfire. Muslim men are sex bombs capable of making any women go weak at the knees.

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Reply #16 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 8:20am

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Being a non-religious person I am not impressed at overt religious symbology for any religion.

The only issue I have with burqa is the practical side in identification in situations where its required for safety and security.

Confronting ? no

I see people who wish to wear silly outfits like the Catholic Bishops are rather moronic but as long as they don't cause any problems they are perfectly entitled to hypocritically/arrogantly/moronically display their religion.

Given the behaviour of the religion in question, I saw a police show where they were investigating a family laundering millions of dollars out of Australia. The family rather stupidly sent out one of the women in a Burqa to try to take a suit case full of over 3 million out of Australia. Let me think how not to draw attention to yourself with security and customs ???? I know wear Burqa

Ok I am really religious and do not want to shame myself by displaying too much flesh because that is immoral, but laundering money for drug dealers that is perfectly ok ?

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #17 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:12am The Burqa is culturally inappropriate in our society and culture. You want to live here and you wish to wear this attire then you must get used to being mistrusted. That is the way our culture is and it is not going to change any time soon. It is not religious attire.
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5396 Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #18 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:25am Apart from being a symbol of a womans second class status, wearing a burqua is a cultural 'up yours' to Australia and our way of life. It indicates that the wearer has no intention of fitting in to our society and respecting our culture.
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Reply #19 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:35am

I see burqa clad women quite constantly when I shop in my area. Women who wear it usually travel in pairs. It is a shocker and does turn heads. Especially from other women. There's nothing else like it when you look at how Australians dress. But these women don't bother anybody and usually keep their heads down. My concern is how they handle the Australian summer being covered up in black. The Afghan burqa is blue obviously because of this reason. It couldn't be comfortable.

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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #21 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:42am

Big Dave wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:35am:

I see burqa clad women quite constantly when I shop in my area. Women who wear it usually travel in pairs. It is a shocker and does turn heads. Especially from other women. There's nothing else like it when you look at how Australians dress. But these women don't bother anybody and usually keep their heads down. My concern is how they handle the Australian summer being covered up in black. The Afghan burqa is blue obviously because of this reason. It couldn't be comfortable.

The funniest comment I heard on that is calling it the "March of the Penguins"

That is my point, being overtly religious does not impress me but as long as you don't cause trouble I really could not care less.

FYI Muslims are not the only religion that has silly outfits.

I have a big issue when religions cause trouble in the name of their religion or hide behind religion to promote radicalism often a bold face corrupt view of that religion. All religions do this to some degree at varying times throughout history.

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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #22 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:49am

Belgarion wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:25am:

Apart from being a symbol of a womans second class status, wearing a burqua is a cultural 'up yours' to Australia and our way of life. It indicates that the wearer has no intention of fitting in to our society and respecting our culture.

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Can not agree, I actually do know many Muslims, Burqa wearers and not.

The only issue I have with the Muslims as a collective is how they act, they can wear all the silly outfits they like.

Often when its about their behaviour its often a small % acting in a very odd way ?

If you migrate here ..... I prefer you leave your radical ideas back in the cesspits you came from.

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Reply #23 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:50am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

I have a big issue when religions cause trouble in the name of their religion or hide behind religion to promote radicalism often a bold face corrupt view of that religion. All religions do this to some degree at varying times throughout history.

Islam did this the most in Muhammed's time.

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Reply #24 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:55am

Not being able to discern whether the person walking past you is male or female, has a weapon, or explosive vest under this garment, is confronting in western society. Female African immigrants are not allowed to walk down the main street topless, nor I suspect would they want to. If immigrants want to wear other suitable garments associated with their culture, that's fine but they must be acceptable to the people in the country they've decided to reside in. France has banned them, in UK and the US they allow them, I think France has the right idea.

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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #25 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:58am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Big Dave wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:35am:

I see burqa clad women quite constantly when I shop in my area. Women who wear it usually travel in pairs. It is a shocker and does turn heads. Especially from other women. There's nothing else like it when you look at how Australians dress. But these women don't bother anybody and usually keep their heads down. My concern is how they handle the Australian summer being covered up in black. The Afghan burqa is blue obviously because of this reason. It couldn't be comfortable.

The funniest comment I heard on that is calling it the "March of the Penguins"

That is my point, being overtly religious does not impress me but as long as you don't cause trouble I really could not care less.

FYI Muslims are not the only religion that has silly outfits.

I have a big issue when religions cause trouble in the name of their religion or hide behind religion to promote radicalism often a bold face corrupt view of that religion. All religions do this to some degree at varying times throughout history.

Maybe the burqa says to some people that a very strict interpretation of islam exists in Australia. Wherever the burqa is present in the world war and trouble isn't far away. Maybe that is why some people are unsettled by it.

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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #26 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:16am

viewpoint wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Not being able to discern whether the person walking past you is male or female, has a weapon, or explosive vest under this garment, is confronting in western society. Female African immigrants are not allowed to walk down the main street topless, nor I suspect would they want to. If immigrants want to wear other suitable garments associated with their culture, that's fine but they must be acceptable to the people in the country they've decided to reside in. France has banned them, in UK and the US they allow them, I think France has the right idea.

Do you freak out every time you see someone carrying a cardboard box or wearing a heavy jacket?

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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #27 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:30am

freediver wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:16am:

viewpoint wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Not being able to discern whether the person walking past you is male or female, has a weapon, or explosive vest under this garment, is confronting in western society. Female African immigrants are not allowed to walk down the main street topless, nor I suspect would they want to. If immigrants want to wear other suitable garments associated with their culture, that's fine but they must be acceptable to the people in the country they've decided to reside in. France has banned them, in UK and the US they allow them, I think France has the right idea.

Do you freak out every time you see someone carrying a cardboard box or wearing a heavy jacket?

Tony Abbott specifically mentioned the Head dress only ???

His comment was not refering to full body covering at all.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #28 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:36am I wonder if I approached Abbott in a burqa, thong and thongs, what he would find most confronting.
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Re: Is a burqa confronting?
Reply #29 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:41am

freediver wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 10:16am:

viewpoint wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Not being able to discern whether the person walking past you is male or female, has a weapon, or explosive vest under this garment, is confronting in western society. Female African immigrants are not allowed to walk down the main street topless, nor I suspect would they want to. If immigrants want to wear other suitable garments associated with their culture, that's fine but they must be acceptable to the people in the country they've decided to reside in. France has banned them, in UK and the US they allow them, I think France has the right idea.

Do you freak out every time you see someone carrying a cardboard box or wearing a heavy jacket?

no only when I see people putting up VOTE GREEN placards...

I figure someones left the gate to the asylum open AGAIN>.

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Question: Is a burqa confronting?
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