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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #60 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:48pm It should be banned and I'll never move from that point. I applaud France's ban.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103180 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #61 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:48pm: It should be banned and I'll never move from that point. I applaud France's ban. Hi Andrei, I agree - we don't want these other ridiculous cultures in Australia. Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly? That's all their religion requires.
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Torpedo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 867 Sydney Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #62 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:52pm True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:45pm: Are you sure? Dead right I am sure! I have never ever heard of nun being circumcised either.
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Reply #63 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Hi Andrei,
I agree - we don't want these other ridiculous cultures in Australia.

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

As the world has seen, there is a very thin line between just modesty and oppression. The minute they dress "modestly", they begin to require something a little more radical. Step by step we arrive at Harem

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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #64 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly? That's all their religion requires. And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?
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Reply #65 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:05pm

Torpedo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:52pm:

I have never ever heard of nun being circumcised either.

There are many circumcised nuns in Africa where it is a cultural practice by Christians to mutilate women's genitalia.

For example, have a look at this article, and bare in mind that 62.5% of Eritrea is Christian according to wikipedia.

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According to a 1997 Demographic and Health Survey of 5,054 women nationally, 90 percent of women in Eritrea have undergone one of these forms of FGM/FGC. Most girls have this procedure performed while they are under the age of seven. Christian highlanders carry out the procedure on their daughters when they are 40 days old....

- United States Department of State, Eritrea: Report on Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) or Female Genital Cutting (FGC), 1 June 2001

http://www.refworld.org/docid/46d5787632.html

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Reply #66 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:06pm

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?

No not me - that is in their old book - the Koran.
That is all it says - it says nothing about wearing a welding suit.

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Reply #67 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:06pm:

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?

No not me - that is in their old book - the Koran.
That is all it says - it says nothing about wearing a welding suit.

That maybe so, but if a woman decides that her own version of modesty goes further than that, then who are you to tell her otherwise?

It is amazing the number of people who would convince themselves that they are in favour of 'freedom' - but in the same breath would tell women what they can or cannot wear.

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Reply #68 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:23pm

all societies have cultural norms and no society has total freedom. We will always mistrust people whom hide thier faces and we will always have an intense dislike if not hatred for a culture which treats women as chattels. personally I say keep up the arrogant attitude because this ensures in the long term that Middle eastern immigration into this country will be opposed by voters. Abbott is preaching to the choir on this subject. Australians literally hate the Burqa and the culture which perpetuates it, it has nothing to do with religion, most people are starting to become aware of that fact.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #69 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:25pm True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly? That's all their religion requires. And who should decide what is 'modest'? You? yes, us. You were allowed into this country because we let you here. Now show some respect.
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Reply #70 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:35pm

ian wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:25pm:

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?

yes, us. You were allowed into this country because we let you here. Now show some respect.

The way other people dress determines the respect you feel you deserve?
I hope u dont mind me pointing out that you seem to have little respect for yourself because you keep searching for respect from strangers.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40705 Gender:	Re: Is a burqa confronting? Reply #71 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:41pm True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly? That's all their religion requires. And who should decide what is 'modest'? You? who decides, the men that own them decide, that's who.
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Reply #72 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 3:15pm

ian wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:25pm:

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?

yes, us. You were allowed into this country because we let you here. Now show some respect.

What? I was allowed into this country because that's where my mother gave birth to me you idiot.

I can trace my roots back at least six generations in this country. But I am not stupid enough to think that makes me a better person than anyone else.

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Reply #73 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 3:39pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:35pm:

ian wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 2:25pm:

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Why can't Muslim women just dress modestly?

That's all their religion requires.

And who should decide what is 'modest'? You?

yes, us. You were allowed into this country because we let you here. Now show some respect.

The way other people dress determines the respect you feel you deserve?
I hope u dont mind me pointing out that you seem to have little respect for yourself because you keep searching for respect from strangers.

Why dont you go to an Arabic country, walk down the street dressed in shorts and a t shirt and get back to me on that.

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Reply #74 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 3:41pm

True Colours wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 3:15pm:

What? I was allowed into this country because that's where my mother gave birth to me you idiot.

I can trace my roots back at least six generations in this country. But I am not stupid enough to think that makes me a better person than anyone else.

Who knows what the truth is, you talk like an arab immigrant and the bs on this forum is so thick you need a shovel sometimes. Regardless, my comment was a generalisation at those immigrants who show contempt for our culture.

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