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Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term?
Sep 4^th, 2013 at 12:49pm

Why can't they keep the same leader, even for just one term? The Coalition won four elections, from 1996-2007, and we had the same PM for the duration of those four term, with John Howard. Labor has been in for two terms, and they couldn't keep the same leader for either of those two terms. Why is this? Why is there no leadership stability? How do we know that, if Labor is elected this Saturday, they won't get rid of the elected leader again, and put in someone new? In fact, if anything, this would be expected.

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BILL SHORTEN WILL NEVER BE PM!!!!

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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #1 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:12pm Because they are incompetent.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #2 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:16pm Yet the coalition has been in the wilderness for the last two terms because of the little criminal. If he had handed over power when it was obvious that his stint was up, things would of been better for the dark side. Not changing your war criminal cost you lot dearly.
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #3 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:18pm . It's because too many psychopaths spoil the soup
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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #4 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:18pm And the Greens will NEVER lead anything......EVER!
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #5 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:00pm Lefties don't want to answer.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #6 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:02pm Because there will be no carbon tax under a government they lead
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #7 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:04pm Maqqa wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:02pm: Because there will be no carbon tax under a government they lead Certainly what they rejected was the hysterical claim made by the Coalition that they were headed towards a carbon tax.
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Pantheon Gold Member Offline Woke Posts: 1256 Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #8 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:07pm viewpoint wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:12pm: Because they are incompetent. Basically this.. viewpoint wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:18pm: And the Greens will NEVER lead anything......EVER! Greens? lead? *rolls over laughing to the point where he blacks out for several hours..
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #9 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:09pm matty wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:00pm: Lefties don't want to answer. Wash your mouth out, I am not a rightwinger.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #10 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:11pm ____ wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:09pm: matty wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:00pm: Lefties don't want to answer. Wash your mouth out, I am not a rightwinger. Your response was not relevant, though, and as such, you really didn't answer.
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Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term?
Reply #11 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:11pm

In 2006 - Labor was heading for oblivion again which is why they had a leadership challenge from Rudd

Rudd's style of campaign was unprecedented ie he was able to move people attention away from traditional political focus like the economy and debts

Instead they focused on extreme left social issues
(1) Saying Sorry
(2) Ratify Kyoto
(3) Abolish Pacific Solution

In 2013 - people realised they were stupid to focus on those extreme left issues

This is why the Greens will be smashed at this election

Labor will also need to re-cast itself to the middle road

Right now - a vote for Labor is a vote for Greens

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #12 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:12pm viewpoint wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 1:18pm: And the Greens will NEVER lead anything......EVER! They allow laptops into padded rooms? Can just see you in the corner in your straight jacket, rocking, dribbling, and mumbling your mantra
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Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term?
Reply #13 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:16pm

matty wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

____ wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

matty wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

Lefties don't want to answer.

Wash your mouth out, I am not a rightwinger.

Your response was not relevant, though, and as such, you really didn't answer.

Relevant ... yes it is. Liberals suffered the deep wilderness for two terms ... and are only exiting now because of a weak labor party.

They were in the wilderness because of not dumping the little war criminal when his time was up.

Conservative in nature, costs big time.

Labor changing leader saved them seats and so less time in the wilderness.

Meanwhile conservative, don't learn the lesson on offer.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Why can't Labor keep the same leader for a term? Reply #14 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:07pm Well Rudd will be replaced in a week's time - assuming there are enough MPs left to choose an alternative from!
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