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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #30 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

What does Tony Abbott stand for?

What are his policies?

Where are they?

Apart from 30 second inconclusive grabs I see nothing.

Come on Abbott supporters provide the links for the detailed Policies of Abbott, I want to see them...really want to see.

This bloke is blowing smoke up everyone's arse and ... you are buying it...laugh out loud Grin

So Red can ask the right questions when its not his hero being attacked. A little sycophantic don't you think. Oh and before Longy replies I think I might get this in F!!K Off!!!

Heheh that was fun

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #31 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

What does Clive Palmer stand for?

What are his policies?

Where are they?

Apart from 30 second inconclusive grabs I see nothing.

Come on Palmer supporters provide the links for the detailed Policies of Palmer, I want to see them...really want to see.

This bloke is blowing smoke up everyone's arse and 6% of you are buying it...laugh out loud Grin

Observe Grasshopper!

Come back when you have read it.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #32 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:10pm

Im Spartacus2, On the Rolf Harris thread I said that it was a shame that Seinfeld wasn't still on because Longy could write for George Costanza..you know two of a kind thing..two losers...

But not you my sword wielding friend, no way, you are further up the food chain, more of a Kenny Kramer type.

Bet you're home right now working out how to put more levels in your home...either that or working out to be a male model..sounds about right yeah! Cheesy

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad? Reply #33 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:19pm Im Spartacus2 had verballed me on this thread and made it appear I was criticising Tony Abbott. This is against all the rules of this Forum and I will be making an official complaint about you. I don't mind a hard fight but that is wrong on every level.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad? Reply #34 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:00pm PUP candidate Chamonix terblanche has my vote in the senate. I was happy enough to vote for her simply for having the name Chamonix, then I googled her and found she was quite a looker too. SOLD! Now if only I could find someone to vote for in parliament.
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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #35 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:11pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

Im Spartacus2 had verballed me on this thread and made it appear I was criticising Tony Abbott.

This is against all the rules of this Forum and I will be making an official complaint about you.

I don't mind a hard fight but that is wrong on every level.

"Ohhh Me thinks he protesteth too much. As if anyone would think you would criticise Abbott. It was obvious you were being paraphrased not verballed. Abbott's name was highlighted for obvious reasons and my note afterwards made it perfectly clear. Truth is you can dish out hateful cr!!p all you like but sook like all get out when your on the receiving end.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #36 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:57pm

... wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

PUP candidate Chamonix terblanche has my vote in the senate.

I was happy enough to vote for her simply for having the name Chamonix, then I googled her and found she was quite a looker too.

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/09/14/1226471/874692-uni-guide.jpg

SOLD!

Now if only I could find someone to vote for in parliament.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #37 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 6:55am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

Seriously, you couldn't vote for that big fat tub of lard could you?...another Snake Oil Salesman...At least Rudd is a good Snake Oil Salesman..Clive Palmer is just a waste of space.

Do your Country a favour and give Abbott a mandate..we don't want the fringe loonies running the joint.

yes red we will give Tony Abbott a mandate, but we also need a alternate to the norm, and this man has different ideas to sort the problems, particully on taxation.

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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

The bigger the Arshole you are on this forum, the more right you have to stay.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #38 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

life_goes_on

Clive gives conservative minded people an alternative as Abbott is not everyone's cup of right wing tea, in fact by any measure he is more socially progressive then Howard/Costello.

He seems to get away with being a nutter.

If the next evolution of his party moves on from this ...... he could easily double his voter base, especially if Abbott does not deflate the guy. I doubt Abbott would want to attack him slush fund style like he did to one nation. this guy does seem cashed up. the Libs may have a big problem with this party, also the nationals.

He will do exactly what One Nation did before him. Arrive on the scene with a splash and then when people listen to the people they elected they will be appalled. They will lsee just how simple and ill-equipped they are for parliament and in 2016 the party will get 0.1% of the vote assuming Palmer hasn't gotten tired of it and thrown it all away - which is a strong possibility.

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

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Reply #39 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:23am

ImSpartascus2 don't try and twist it into something else. I have never, repeat never, seen a single poster on this site do what you did.

All I'm asking you to do is follow the rules.

You have made it appear it said those words about Abbott. Criticise me all you like but don't VERBAL me, it's not on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #40 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:40am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

life_goes_on

Clive gives conservative minded people an alternative as Abbott is not everyone's cup of right wing tea, in fact by any measure he is more socially progressive then Howard/Costello.

He seems to get away with being a nutter.

If the next evolution of his party moves on from this ...... he could easily double his voter base, especially if Abbott does not deflate the guy. I doubt Abbott would want to attack him slush fund style like he did to one nation. this guy does seem cashed up. the Libs may have a big problem with this party, also the nationals.

He will do exactly what One Nation did before him. Arrive on the scene with a splash and then when people listen to the people they elected they will be appalled. They will lsee just how simple and ill-equipped they are for parliament and in 2016 the party will get 0.1% of the vote assuming Palmer hasn't gotten tired of it and thrown it all away - which is a strong possibility.

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

I sort of read aussies link to Palmer.. too long winded for me.. but I did get to the TAX... and he claims that if business pays its $70bn tax bill at the end of the year instead of forward instalments every 3 months....then they could then spend that $70bn and the govt would gain the GST...and of course the market place would be better off all round...

now my question is...would not companies stop saving for their taxes if they were spending it as Palmers suggests... which in turn means the tax office losing a heck of a lot..

how can a business spend what he would normally pay the taxman.... and still save for the taxman...???? who will be waiting no matter what...

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad? Reply #41 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:43am . I don't trust Palmer and the fact he's preferencing Greens finished me with him I'm glad he showed his true colours during the campaign He showed me what an unstable character he is and what a bully what a loudmouth how little self-control he has what a megalomaniac he is Nope
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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #42 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:01am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

What does Clive Palmer stand for?

What are his policies?

Where are they?

Apart from 30 second inconclusive grabs I see nothing.

Come on Palmer supporters provide the links for the detailed Policies of Palmer, I want to see them...really want to see.

This bloke is blowing smoke up everyone's arse and 6% of you are buying it...laugh out loud Grin

Then I would suggest you go to the PUP website and read for yourself.
They are there if you wish to be informed.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #43 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:21am

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:40am:

he claims that if business pays its $70bn tax bill at the end of the year instead of forward instalments every 3 months....then they could then spend that $70bn and the govt would gain the GST...and of course the market place would be better off all round...

now my question is...would not companies stop saving for their taxes if they were spending it as Palmers suggests... which in turn means the tax office losing a heck of a lot..

how can a business spend what he would normally pay the taxman.... and still save for the taxman...???? who will be waiting no matter what...

It's nonsense. A prudent business would not be spending this money. All that would be available to the business would be the interest earned or saved. This would be something closer to 2 billion dollars, not 70 billion dollars.

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Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Reply #44 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:29am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

life_goes_on

Clive gives conservative minded people an alternative as Abbott is not everyone's cup of right wing tea, in fact by any measure he is more socially progressive then Howard/Costello.

He seems to get away with being a nutter.

If the next evolution of his party moves on from this ...... he could easily double his voter base, especially if Abbott does not deflate the guy. I doubt Abbott would want to attack him slush fund style like he did to one nation. this guy does seem cashed up. the Libs may have a big problem with this party, also the nationals.

He will do exactly what One Nation did before him. Arrive on the scene with a splash and then when people listen to the people they elected they will be appalled. They will lsee just how simple and ill-equipped they are for parliament and in 2016 the party will get 0.1% of the vote assuming Palmer hasn't gotten tired of it and thrown it all away - which is a strong possibility.

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

led by whom? funded by whom? PUP is nothing more than Clive's personal protest party which when he loses interest - as he will - will simply collapse. It has no grassroots, no real organisation and no real raison d'etre. it will be dead in 3 years - even less if it doesn't win any seats.

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