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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	12,000 natural attrition Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:51pm Anyone one the left care to make an educated guess what this means? Then match it up with what Labor says about this Does it match up seamlessly?
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Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:56pm

I'll tell you what it means when the LNP use it, taking the Campbell Newman model as the exemplar.

It means targetted Public Servants will be sent a letter giving them an option of pissing off (with a redundancy package) or not pissing off, risking the wrath of Khan and have to apply to hold the job they presently have.

They choose to piss off....and that is called 'natural attrition.'

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Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:02pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:56pm:

I'll tell you what it means when the LNP use it, taking the Campbell Newman model as the exemplar.

It means targetted Public Servants will be sent a letter giving them an option of pissing off (with a redundancy package) or not pissing off, risking the wrath of Khan and have to apply to hold the job they presently have.

They choose to piss off....and that is called 'natural attrition.'

"Campbell Newman exemplar"
Then should we use the NSW ALP corruption exemplar to condemn Rudd?

"They choose to piss off"
It's a choice to piss off. So how can Labor truthfully say that LIBs will "slash" jobs

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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38530 Gender:	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:09pm Sure, it's a choice. What will you have? (a) The desert island with a gallon of water, or (b) The desert island with zero water.
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Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:13pm

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It's a choice to piss off. So how can Labor truthfully say that LIBs will "slash" jobs

Because they're speaking from experience. That's exactly what they've been doing for the past 12 months or so with 8,000 gone already - or roughly 6% of the total head count.

12,000 is about 10% if you remove those in the armed forces from the headcount.

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"You're just one lucky motherf-cker" - Someone, 5th February 2013

Num num num num.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:16pm 12,000 public servants in Canberra and 16,000 from the closing of GMH in SA..and thats just the beginning of Abbotts job losses.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:22pm Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:09pm: Sure, it's a choice. What will you have? (a) The desert island with a gallon of water, or (b) The desert island with zero water. So it's not slashing as per Rudd's lies
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Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:49pm

i would never count public service job losses as real job losses as they dont exist in the real economy.
they are a win for the real economy , and as such, should be counted as a bonus.
we (the private sector) dont want to employ any of those public servants though, as they are tarnished goods. it would take years to retrain them in efficient work practices.
personally, they should all be parked in extensive 'work for the dole ' projects, and be made available to the private sector to do menial tasks like washing our cars, cleaning our toilets, maybe fetching the mail.
tony is aiming way too low with these numbers. i'd close canberra down and operate the country from kirribilli

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Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:32pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

Sure, it's a choice. What will you have?

(a) The desert island with a gallon of water, or
(b) The desert island with zero water.

No BUCKETS of MONEY that those who work in the private sector do not get....they get whats laughingly called packages....

and they even ask if any packages are being offered...yes they do.....

ooooooo if you only knew........ Roll Eyes

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #9 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:33pm Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:51pm: Anyone one the left care to make an educated guess what this means? Then match it up with what Labor says about this Does it match up seamlessly? Can someone translate please? I don't speak Maqqa.
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Reply #10 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

i would never count public service job losses as real job losses as they dont exist in the real economy.
they are a win for the real economy , and as such, should be counted as a bonus.
we (the private sector) dont want to employ any of those public servants though, as they are tarnished goods. it would take years to retrain them in efficient work practices.
personally, they should all be parked in extensive 'work for the dole ' projects, and be made available to the private sector to do menial tasks like washing our cars, cleaning our toilets, maybe fetching the mail.
tony is aiming way too low with these numbers. i'd close canberra down and operate the country from kirribilli

and there is the reason why you'll never be put in charge of anything bigger than your vege patch.

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Reply #11 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:35pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:33pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Anyone one the left care to make an educated guess what this means?

Then match it up with what Labor says about this

Does it match up seamlessly?

Can someone translate please? I don't speak Maqqa.

Sorry, neither does he ... he can't tell you what he means either

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #12 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:10am In a nutshell, "natural attrition" means that nobody loses their job (some may be forced or bullied out of their jobs, but none "lose" their job). Instead, people who might otherwise have been employed don't get a job. They stay on benefits. Win-win, hey?
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Reply #13 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:18am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

i would never count public service job losses as real job losses as they dont exist in the real economy.
they are a win for the real economy , and as such, should be counted as a bonus.
we (the private sector) dont want to employ any of those public servants though, as they are tarnished goods. it would take years to retrain them in efficient work practices.
personally, they should all be parked in extensive 'work for the dole ' projects, and be made available to the private sector to do menial tasks like washing our cars, cleaning our toilets, maybe fetching the mail.
tony is aiming way too low with these numbers. i'd close canberra down and operate the country from kirribilli

Correct on all counts

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: 12,000 natural attrition Reply #14 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:20am Maybe they will be able to join the other 14,000 plus, that went before. Thanks to Campbell ( the job wreaker ) Newman.
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