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Why is the US supporting Al-Qaeda?
Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
John Kerry recently stated...

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The opposition has increasingly become more defined by its moderation, more defined by the breadth of its membership and more defined by its adherence to some, you know, democratic process and to an all-inclusive, minority-protecting constitution, which will be broad-based and secular with respect to the future of Syria

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/5/californian-syria-video-what-america-hates-i-love/#ixzz2e5RSWho6
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Here's one of the latest exploits of this "moderate" group:

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An Al-Qaeda-linked group attacked a predominantly Christian village sympathetic to the Assad regime in western Syria on Wednesday while rebel and government forces clashed in Damascus.

The attack began at dawn when a Jabhat al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a government checkpoint near the entrance to the  village of Maaloula, according to a Syrian official and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which collects information from anti-regime activists.

Maaloula – a mountain village of 2,000 residents 60km northeast of Damascus - is home to some of the most ancient Orthodox Christian relics and is a major pilgrimage destination. It’s also one of the very few places in the world where people still speak Aramaic, a biblical-era language Jesus is believed to have spoken. 

http://rt.com/news/rebels-syria-christian-village-428/

This is the New York Time's assessment of the "secularisation" and "moderation" of the rebel forces that Kerry speaks of:

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Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.


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Among the most extreme groups is the notorious Al Nusra Front, the Qaeda-aligned force declared a terrorist organization by the United States


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Of most concern to the United States is the Nusra Front, whose leader recently confirmed that the group cooperated with Al Qaeda in Iraq and pledged fealty to Al Qaeda’s top leader, Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden’s longtime deputy. Nusra has claimed responsibility for a number of suicide bombings and is the group of choice for the foreign jihadis pouring into Syria.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/world/middleeast/islamist-rebels-gains-in-syria-create-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


The Syrian rebels have made a name for themselves filming executions and most notoriously, eating the heart of one of their victims. For months they have been known to possess sarin gas, and Turkish authorities previously uncovered a plot to launch a "false flag" attack to prompt western powers to intervene. And people actually believe this nonsense about this latest attack coming from the regime??

Ironic indeed that its left to the hard-left socialist congressman Dennis Kucinich to point out what everyone knows to be the truth: a US or NATO intervention force would be an effective Al-Qaeda air-force.

Does anyone need any more proof that despite the "war on terror" farce, the US is an active promoter of terrorism and extremist organisations?

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Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:51pm
 
The Jews are freaking out. They are passing out gas masks in Israel as we speak. The Jewish part of this whole deal is not being explained. Why would the USA want to help the Syrians? The USA didn't help the Egypt. Why is this any different? The high up Jews in America want the chemical weapons destroyed. It's the same situation as Iraq.
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Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:51pm
 
But you all may be wondering what has happened to Kerry's "moderate" and "secular" faction of the rebels. Well, you probably didn't hear it on any mainstream news, but recently a US trained and equipped force attempted a massive assault into Western Syria from their base in Jordan (so much for the hillarious claim by Jordan that they would not be used as a base of operations). They were anhialated, and were forced to flee back over the border.

Apparently they were trying to emulate what they did in Libya - but as blind Freddy could have told them, Syria aint Libya. And the best part? The Al-Qaeda groups looked on and didn't lift a finger to support them.

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Syrian Army crushes U.S.-backed rebel assault from Jordan

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LONDON — President Bashar Assad has defeated a U.S. effort to use
Jordan as a launching pad for the overthrow of his regime.

Western diplomatic sources said Assad’s military and security forces
crushed a U.S. campaign to send hundreds of trained and equipped Sunni
rebels from Jordan to regain a key city in southern city.

A Syrian military soldier holds his AK-47 with a sticker of President Bashar Assad that reads “Syria is fine.” /AP

The sources said a force sponsored by the Western-backed Free Syrian Army failed to reach even 10 kilometers within Syria before the rebels were detected and attacked by the Syrian Army.

“This was a well-trained and equipped force meant to eventually reach Damascus and overthrow the regime,” a source said. “Instead, the rebels crossed the Jordanian border and within hours were on the run.”

The sources said the FSA force, with fighters from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, consisted of two battalion-size units, or nearly 600 fighters.

The sources said the fighters, trained by the CIA as well as Jordan’s Special Operations Force Command, were equipped with anti-tank, anti-aircraft missiles as well as night-vision systems.

Most of the equipment was said to have come from the former Yugoslavia. Since late 2012, Jordan has served as the main venue for the U.S.-sponsored project to train and equip Syrian rebels.

On Aug. 17, the two FSA units crossed the Jordanian border for the nearby Syrian city of Dera, a distance of fewer than 15 kilometers. But the sources said the FSA fighters were immediately besieged by Druse and Bedouin
militias and refused help by Al Qaida-aligned units.

“Nobody wanted them, and even those who have been fighting Assad saw them as a threat,” another source said.

Within hours, Syrian Army units arrived and pursued FSA fighters west toward the Golan Heights and the frontier with Israel. The sources said discipline broke down within the FSA units and some of the fighters tried to attack a United Nations peace-keeping force in the Golan in an attempt to
acquire human shields.

“The CIA plan was simple: To establish an FSA presence in southern Syria that would serve as a magnet for other opposition forces to march on to
Damascus,” the second source said.

By Aug. 20, the sources said, the FSA force, which contained Western mercenaries disguised as rebels, was routed, with elements besieged by Syrian Army units. They said the FSA defeat ended U.S. hopes of using Jordan for a rapid rebel advance that could decide the Syrian war in 2013.

The sources said the defeat highlighted the increasing isolation of
Washington in directing the rebel campaign in Syria. They said the U.S. strategy drew from the revolt against Col. Moammar Gadhafi in Libya in 2011, in which NATO allies used Benghazi as a launching pad for attacks.

“The Americans have been pursuing this Benghazi strategy for more than a year despite the fact that Syria is not Libya, Assad is certainly not Gadhafi, and that Damascus has powerful allies that are fighting to save
the regime,” the second source said. “But the feeling among the allies is that America is not listening.”

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/09/03/syrian-army-crushes-u-s-backed-rebel-assa...
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Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 4:06pm
 
I doubt Israel and American believed that Syria had chemical weapons. It's a good chance that Israel is going to knock out their  ability to deploy these weapons if the American's don't. It's a potential regional conflict on another level. This is not about helping Syrian civilians. The crooks in America are war crazy scumbags. Why would they care about civilians?
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Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 4:41pm
 
Personally, I hope that Russia responds to any US strikes by flattening both Riyadh and Doha. If nothing else, that would be an actual strike against known sponsors of jihadi terrorists.
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Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 9:58pm
 
Big Dave wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 4:06pm:
I doubt Israel and American believed that Syria had chemical weapons. It's a good chance that Israel is going to knock out their  ability to deploy these weapons if the American's don't. It's a potential regional conflict on another level. This is not about helping Syrian civilians. The crooks in America are war crazy scumbags. Why would they care about civilians?




U.S. Administration = = Al-Qaeda = = Human LAWLESSNESS


Matthew 24:37
....as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage....


Genesis 6:11
.....and the earth was filled with violence.
12  And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13  And God said unto Noah.....the earth is filled with violence through them....






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Look at this world today.

We live in a world filled with violence and injustice.

Matthew 24:32
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35  Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37  But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.



Have you made your peace, with your God ?

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Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 10:05pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

Personally, I hope that Russia responds to any US strikes by flattening both Riyadh and Doha. If nothing else, that would be an actual strike against known sponsors of jihadi terrorists.




I am genuinely surprised by your statement, gandalf.

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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 12:33am
 
Big Dave wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 4:06pm:
I doubt Israel and American believed that Syria had chemical weapons.


Why?  In the real world, Syria has been known to possess Chemical Weapons for at least 20+ years.  This has been reported fairly extensively in the specialist defence journals for that long.   The Israelis have more than likely known about it for far longer.

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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 1:35pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Here's one of the latest exploits of this "moderate" group:

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An Al-Qaeda-linked group attacked a predominantly Christian village

http://rt.com/news/rebels-syria-christian-village-428/



I would be cautious about accepting any information about Syria from Putin's Russia Today news channel. Afterall, Putin is one of the Syrian dictator's strongest allies.

RT is often used as a mouthpiece by dictators who are friendly to Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)



Here is an article about the FSA that is more balanced:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/11/20111116154829885782.html
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Reply #9 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 1:38pm
 
Big Dave wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:51pm:
The Jews are freaking out. They are passing out gas masks in Israel as we speak. The Jewish part of this whole deal is not being explained. Why would the USA want to help the Syrians? The USA didn't help the Egypt. Why is this any different? The high up Jews in America want the chemical weapons destroyed. It's the same situation as Iraq.


The Syrian regime is also targeted by those Jews because the regime has consistently supported pro-Palestinian organisations.
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Reply #10 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 2:39pm
 
True Colours wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 1:38pm:
Big Dave wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:51pm:
The Jews are freaking out. They are passing out gas masks in Israel as we speak. The Jewish part of this whole deal is not being explained. Why would the USA want to help the Syrians? The USA didn't help the Egypt. Why is this any different? The high up Jews in America want the chemical weapons destroyed. It's the same situation as Iraq.


The Syrian regime is also targeted by those Jews because the regime has consistently supported pro-Palestinian organisations.


Mind you the gas masks are only for the jews not for the Palestinians.
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Reply #11 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 10:06pm
 
Why?

The USA has always supported Al Qaeda. In fact they set up the terrorist group in the first place to fight the Soviets in the Soviet/Afganastan war.

Why send in American soldiers to die in far away countries that you wish to control and steal their resources when you can send paid terrorists in their to destabilise their governments and run night raids with drones?

You must understand what the USA is and what it represents. (and it has nothing to do with democracy and freedom)
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Reply #12 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 10:11pm
 
wally1 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 2:39pm:
True Colours wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 1:38pm:
Big Dave wrote on Sep 6th, 2013 at 3:51pm:
The Jews are freaking out. They are passing out gas masks in Israel as we speak. The Jewish part of this whole deal is not being explained. Why would the USA want to help the Syrians? The USA didn't help the Egypt. Why is this any different? The high up Jews in America want the chemical weapons destroyed. It's the same situation as Iraq.


The Syrian regime is also targeted by those Jews because the regime has consistently supported pro-Palestinian organisations.


Mind you the gas masks are only for the jews not for the Palestinians.


But technically the Israeli regime don't recognise Palestinians as people.

Israel also has secret nukes and is a non signatory of the NNP treaty and FORBIDS international inspections of its nuclear activities and sites.

One needs to keep these things is perspective.

They are the CHOSEN PEOPLE after all. I am not sure who chose them, but I have it from good authority that they are the CHOSEN PEOPLE.

The Jews are superior humans beings to every other living human on the planet - everybody knows that.

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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 4:58pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 10:06pm:
Why?

The USA has always supported Al Qaeda. In fact they set up the terrorist group in the first place to fight the Soviets in the Soviet/Afganastan war.

Why send in American soldiers to die in far away countries that you wish to control and steal their resources when you can send paid terrorists in their to destabilise their governments and run night raids with drones?

You must understand what the USA is and what it represents. (and it has nothing to do with democracy and freedom)

Bingo!


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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 7:32pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Israel also has secret nukes and is a non signatory of the NNP treaty and FORBIDS international inspections of its nuclear activities and sites.

One needs to keep these things is perspective.



Pakistan has not signed the non proliferation treaty and they have nuclear weapons,has anybody ever asked to inspect Pakistan's facilities or is that a condition of the NPT which neither Israel or Pakistan has signed?

Iran and North Korea are in breach of the NPT, Israel and Pakistan have not breached the NPT because they never signed it.

The Israeli jews invent some pretty good stuff, Australian FA18 use a targeting pod designed by Israelis for our precision weapons, the same Israeli military defense company also invented cameras used by doctors around the world for colonoscopy and this little gem.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_endoscopy








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