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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Double Dissolution Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:48pm Libs polling has been pathetic compared to the polling the last few months showing a landslide. The senate vote will also reflect this weak support for Abbott. Abbott said he will not negotiate so when will the DD election be called?
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Reply #1 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:50pm

____ wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Libs polling has been pathetic compared to the polling the last few months showing a landslide.

The senate vote will also reflect this weak support for Abbott.

Abbott said he will not negotiate so when will the DD election be called?

Rudd may not be going anywhere. Thank God Gillard didn't recontest.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #2 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:54pm I don't think he's going to be so eager to rush into a DD now. It seems like they were expecting to deliver a bigger flogging than what they did. Then again, who knows what goes through that front bottom's mind? He probably will go for a DD.
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Reply #3 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:55pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:50pm:

____ wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Libs polling has been pathetic compared to the polling the last few months showing a landslide.

The senate vote will also reflect this weak support for Abbott.

Abbott said he will not negotiate so when will the DD election be called?

Rudd may not be going anywhere. Thank God Gillard didn't recontest.

Watching it now, Rudd might think Abbott will risk a DD because this concession speech doesn't look like that of a retiring leader. I don't think Rudds going to resign as leader, not tonight anyway.

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Reply #4 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:56pm

____ wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Libs polling has been pathetic compared to the polling the last few months showing a landslide.

The senate vote will also reflect this weak support for Abbott.

Abbott said he will not negotiate so when will the DD election be called?

I bet he won't have the balls! The whole threat of a DD was the catalyst for how I chose to vote today. The people have voted and he has to work with what their wishes are. If he cannot do that he needs to step aside for someone who can.

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Reply #5 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:57pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:50pm:

____ wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Libs polling has been pathetic compared to the polling the last few months showing a landslide.

The senate vote will also reflect this weak support for Abbott.

Abbott said he will not negotiate so when will the DD election be called?

Rudd may not be going anywhere. Thank God Gillard didn't recontest.

Watching it now, Rudd might think Abbott will risk a DD because this concession speech doesn't look like that of a retiring leader. I don't think Rudds going to resign as leader, not tonight anyway.

Ooooops - he just did. New blood is needed and he did the right thing.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #6 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:59pm Dam, the bastard resigned within a minute of that post.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #7 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:01pm skippy. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:59pm: Dam, the bastard resigned within a minute of that post. I'm relieved.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38877 Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #8 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:01pm skippy. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 9:59pm: Dam, the bastard resigned within a minute of that post. Funny as..............
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #9 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:13pm Greens have already lost the BOP in the senate according to the ABC election site. DD no longer an issue
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Reply #10 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:13pm

The Greens will not have the balance of power in the new Senate. The balance of power will be held by diverse minor parties. The new Abbott government will have to herd cats in much the same way that dogged the Rudd government after July 2008. I don't think Abbott's a cat person, figuratively speaking.

It will take five or so months at least to get a DD trigger (with Abbott complaining loudly and hypocritically about mandates the whole time). It will be ten months before the new Senate take their seats.

I expect he's not going to be so hasty, given that the new Senate should have its own chance at the rejected legislation. If there's a DD election, it will probably be in the second half of next year in September or October. Yet by then his support may have eroded. He will only take the chance if he still enjoys support.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #11 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:17pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:13pm: Greens have already lost the BOP in the senate according to the ABC election site. DD no longer an issue So lameduck Abbott lied and will negotiate with a hostile senate.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75384 Gender:	Re: Double Dissolution Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:20pm Labors tables turned when Rudd refused to go to a DD after saying he would, and Abbott will find himself in the same position if he doesn't go through with it. Although he may not want to by that time ... I doubt his numbers will stay high for very long.
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Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:30pm

perhaps not...

Fairfax simulations have Greens retaining BOP Smiley

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The simulations, carried out for Fairfax Media by a politically independent statistician who wishes to be known only as ''the truth seeker'', show the most likely outcomes in each state would see the Greens gaining three seats, despite losing votes, to retain the balance of power.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/power-play-in-senate-as-greens-and-microparties-race-to-tip-the-balance-20130906-2taue.html#ixzz2eD2z5CHT

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Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

Greens have already lost the BOP in the senate according to the ABC election site.

DD no longer an issue Sad

It is still on the table if Abbott wants to ram through his paid parental leave scheme or repeal the mining tax. The crossbenchers (and likely new crossbenchers) broadly support a mining tax and think the Coalition's PPL scheme is too generous.

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