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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #30 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:57pm

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Is the attitude of islam which cause the atrocities, hatred and persecution of Christians by muslims a mental illness?

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Moses, Islam is a religion, a system of beliefs, not an individual, it therefore cannot have an "attitude". Roll Eyes

moses wrote:
That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

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But it is not part of Islamic belief, Moses. Perhaps its a problem with the believers and their interpretation of the Q'ran, not the religion itself?

moses wrote:
islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

Brian Ross wrote:
Islamophobia certainly appears to be...

Loved the footwork Brian as you duck and weave in order to excuse, exonerate, and apologize for the root cause of all islamic atrocities committed in the name of allah daily around the globe.

Cause of atrocities practiced by muslims = islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah? Reply #31 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:00pm Hot Breath Wrote: Quote: ALL religion is a mental illness! It is the Opiate of the Masses and deludes people in all sorts of ways away from reality and science Except your beloved islam, hey H.B.
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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #32 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:31pm

[quote author=moses link=1378601181/22#22 date]atrocities, hatred and persecution of Christians by muslims[/url] a mental illness?

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes? [/quote]

Maybe your mental like Yadda.

The Arabic work for God is Allah or Rabb.

When Christian Arabs say Allah, there not referring to the same Allah as the muslims.

When muslims say Allah, they are referring to allah as the creator of the heavens and the earth.

When christians say Allah, it refers to jesus who they claim is God.

Allah=God

Back in the pagan days when pagans used to go on journeys, they would make a God out of dates and travel with that date God to give them protection. And when they got hungry, they ate there date God lol

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #33 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

The Arabic work for God is Allah or Rabb.

When Christian Arabs say Allah, there not referring to the same Allah as the muslims.

When muslims say Allah, they are referring to allah as the creator of the heavens and the earth.

When christians say Allah, it refers to jesus who they claim is God.

Allah=God

Back in the pagan days when pagans used to go on journeys, they would make a God out of dates and travel with that date God to give them protection. And when they got hungry, they ate there date God lol

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #34 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

moses wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Brian Ross
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moses wrote:
Is the attitude of islam which cause the atrocities, hatred and persecution of Christians by muslims a mental illness?

Brian Ross wrote:
Moses, Islam is a religion, a system of beliefs, not an individual, it therefore cannot have an "attitude". Roll Eyes

moses wrote:
That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

Brian Ross wrote:
But it is not part of Islamic belief, Moses. Perhaps its a problem with the believers and their interpretation of the Q'ran, not the religion itself?

moses wrote:
islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

Brian Ross wrote:
Islamophobia certainly appears to be...

Loved the footwork Brian as you duck and weave in order to excuse, exonerate, and apologize for the root cause of all islamic atrocities committed in the name of allah daily around the globe.

Cause of atrocities practiced by muslims = islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an

I excuse nothing, Moses. I provide an explanation which you appear to take issue with. Could it be that explanation shows how unreasonable your attitudes towards Muslims are? Nah, of course not, you're just a bigot and an Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #35 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:10pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

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But it is not part of Islamic belief, Moses. Perhaps its a problem with the believers and their interpretation of the Q'ran, not the religion itself?

It is part of Islam. For example, Muhammed and his followers engaged in mass execution of Jewish POWs, forced mass migrations and ethnic cleansing of all non-Muslims from large areas. Islam institutionalises discrimination and oppression in law. You really can't escape these aspects of Islam, without discarding Islam itself.

So, how was this different from the massacres which occurred at the end of most battles and sieges before, during and after the same time which were committed by people who weren't, Muslims, FD?

In reality, it was how warfare was conducted. Perhaps you'd like to read up what happened when the European Christian Crusaders took Jerusalem in 1099 where at the end, most of the population of the city, no matter what their religion was, were slaughtered.

You should perhaps also perhaps acquaint yourself with the battle of Agincourt, where Henry V massacred all the prisoners at the end of the battle in 1415.

I can point you to literally hundreds, perhaps thousands of such massacres across history from it's start to today, FD. So, what made Mohammed's little effort so unique again? Roll Eyes

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #36 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 11:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

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But it is not part of Islamic belief, Moses. Perhaps its a problem with the believers and their interpretation of the Q'ran, not the religion itself?

It is part of Islam. For example, Muhammed and his followers engaged in mass execution of Jewish POWs, forced mass migrations and ethnic cleansing of all non-Muslims from large areas. Islam institutionalises discrimination and oppression in law. You really can't escape these aspects of Islam, without discarding Islam itself.

So, how was this different from the massacres which occurred at the end of most battles and sieges before, during and after the same time which were committed by people who weren't, Muslims, FD?

Er... no other warlords ordering those massacres were regarded as the final prophets of God and no religion, tasked with conquering the world, was established around their teachings.

Don't tell us you didn't notice this yourself?

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #37 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:16pm

wally1 wrote: Quote:

author=moses link=1378601181/22#22 date]atrocities, hatred and persecution of Christians by muslims[/url] a mental illness?

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

Maybe your mental like Yadda.

The Arabic work for God is Allah or Rabb.

When Christian Arabs say Allah, there not referring to the same Allah as the muslims.

When muslims say Allah, they are referring to allah as the creator of the heavens and the earth.

When christians say Allah, it refers to jesus who they claim is God.

Allah=God

Back in the pagan days when pagans used to go on journeys, they would make a God out of dates and travel with that date God to give them protection. And when they got hungry, they ate there date God lol

You've sidestepped the issue wally1:

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

A doctrine (islam) which preaches hatred and persecution, is that a mental illness?

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #38 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:18pm

Brian Ross wrote: Quote:

I excuse nothing, Moses. I provide an explanation which you appear to take issue with. Could it be that explanation shows how unreasonable your attitudes towards Muslims are? Nah, of course not, you're just a bigot and an Islamophobe.

Oh gee Brian you've left most of the excuses out (you only used bigot and islomophobe) here I'll give bigger list:

1/. The qur'an doesn't really mean what it says.
2/. The doctrine says it but islam doesn't practice it.
3/. The Christians did it a thousand years ago.
4/. Not all muslims do it.
5/. Those muslims who commit atrocities misinterpret the qur'an.
6/. It's written in Arabic you can't translate it.

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #39 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm

Moses, you're a Christian right?

So, how are your slaves doing?
When you going to put to death all the football players for touching pigskin?
When you going to put to death everybody who wears two different cloths against their skin?

Those are things YOUR book demands you do. You proclaim that all Muslims must follow THEIR book literally, like a good Islamic fundamentalist yet you're not setting a good example, are you?

Get back to us when you can explain how you interpret YOUR book's teachings yet don't allow Muslims to interpret THEIR book how they like.

Hypocrite! Grin

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #40 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

Hot Breath,

You're running scared of a simple statement, which responded to one of your posts, my statement was:

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

A doctrine (islam) which preaches hatred and persecution, is that a mental illness H.B?

After all you're the one who raised the pretext that aversion to something you find obnoxious, is a mental illness.

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #41 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 1:22pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

You proclaim that all Muslims must follow THEIR book literally, like a good Islamic fundamentalist

Get back to us when you can explain how you interpret YOUR book's teachings yet don't allow Muslims to interpret THEIR book how they like.

Hypocrite!

It is the Allah of the Quran who forbids cherry picking what parts of Islam to follow.

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Allah speaking-
So do you believe in part of the scripture and disbelieve in part?
Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life;and on the day of resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment.
And Allah is not unaware of what you do.
www.quran.com/2/85

Allah calls those muslims who think they can pick and choose what parts of Islam they follow hypocrites.
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Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy speaking-
O prophet fight against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites
and be harsh upon them.
And their refuge is hell,and wretched is the destination.
www.quran.com/9/73

More verses where Allah calls muslims hypocrites-
www.quran.com/search?q=hypocrite

Was it pope Leo who told the flock not to take the buy-bull literally?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #42 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 1:50pm

moses wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

wally1 wrote: Quote:

author=moses link=1378601181/22#22 date]atrocities, hatred and persecution of Christians by muslims[/url] a mental illness?

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

Maybe your mental like Yadda.

The Arabic work for God is Allah or Rabb.

When Christian Arabs say Allah, there not referring to the same Allah as the muslims.

When muslims say Allah, they are referring to allah as the creator of the heavens and the earth.

When christians say Allah, it refers to jesus who they claim is God.

Allah=God

Back in the pagan days when pagans used to go on journeys, they would make a God out of dates and travel with that date God to give them protection. And when they got hungry, they ate there date God lol

You've sidestepped the issue wally1:

That's an interesting perspective, hatred and persecution of the most barbaric kind, against Christians and Jews is part of islamic doctrine.

islamic doctrine is a mental illness, yes?

A doctrine (islam) which preaches hatred and persecution, is that a mental illness?

Didn't moses punch a man and kill him?

I wonder how you got your name.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah? Reply #43 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:38pm Nice bit of smokescreening there wally1, however the question still remains: is the doctrine of islam which preaches hatred and persecution of Christians and Jews a mental illness?
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Re: Why do Christian Arabs also pray to Allah?
Reply #44 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm

moses wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

Hot Breath Wrote: Quote:

ALL religion is a mental illness! It is the Opiate of the Masses and deludes people in all sorts of ways away from reality and science

Except your beloved islam, hey H.B.

I do not love Islam. I merely don't hate it any more than I hate any other religion. You seem to be unwilling or unable to let go your addiction to your favourite Opiate... Cheesy

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