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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #270 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:35am

# wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:18am:

# wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:48am:

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Maybe the Labor Party need to buy their own media mogul????

Did Abbott buy Murdoch? I thought he sold himself.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36

Either way, the (poor) outcome would have been the same.

One way, we'd have an Abbott government. As it is, we have a Murdoch government.

Which is worse?

You toss, I'll call.....

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #271 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:38am:

This whole issue is being driven by nothing but spite and vindictiveness by the putrid far Right.

They're (stupidly) cutting off their own noses to spite the faces of those too intelligent to vote for them.

We really do need a revolution or a civil war, to remove the Luddite Far Right from power, and the country, permanently.

They will strangle the country, and set it back by many years.

As did Fraser/Howard, and Howard/Costcutto. But this pack of feckwits is by far the worst.

Conservatives should be expressly prevented from EVER having power again in Aus.

This NBN idiocy by Abbott's Rabbits is a glaring example of why.

Couldn't agree MORE.. Sad

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #272 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:32pm

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

;Kat wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

The NBN is such a vital piece of infrastructure for the future of the country, that any attempt
to interfere with it, cut it back, or do away with it, should be regarded as an act of treason.

Vital??...in order to prove it is 'vital' we need to analyse the cost/benefit relationship. So back to the start.

You seem to believe that your ignorance of uses to which the Internet is put, and may be put in the future, is significant.

As has already been established, that belief is consistent with the psychosis commonly known as a God Complex.

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Vital does not cover being able to download porn and movies quicker ...

Your usage is not representative of the population in general.

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Vital is perfectly arguable in commercial centres, business hubs etc, ...

You evidently have a preference for young boys

delivering telegrams on bicycles.

Even longweekend58 had to admit that the exponential rise in demand for bandwidth shows no sign of slowing. Despite his best efforts (in the same post), he couldn't discredit the forecast that demand will hit the 1Gb/s level by 2020. He made a fool of himself, as usual, by underestimating fibre. In case the realisation eluded you, 1Gb/s is beyond the realistic capacity of copper in the circumstances. The Coalition's nodes will be scrap before the plan is completed.

We need fibre to the premises to meet the observed exponential rise in demand for bandwidth. For the record, I'm quite content to say that I don't know what the bandwidth will be used for. I don't even pretend to know what bandwidth is used for now. In reality, we're all in the position of that bloke who couldn't figure out what use a telephone might be. Our frame of reference is telegrams delivered by bicycle.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #273 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:39pm Seems to be a fair amount of leftoid frothing at the mouth going on here, one knows that when there is a fair amount of leftoid frothing at the mouth you can be certain that you are doing the right thing
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40769 Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #274 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:42pm what if the cost benefit anaylsis show FTTH is the best ?
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #275 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:50pm eSprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:42pm: what if the cost benefit anaylsis show FTTH is the best ? It won't, because it isn't. But I have no doubt whatsoever that a Con-alition 'government' would happily fudge the figures to 'prove' otherwise. They have a long history of doing precisely that.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #276 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:50pm don't you mean the cheapest.?
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Vuk11 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1797 QLD Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #277 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:12pm One question I would like answered is what stopped Telstra from upgrading their exchanges in the first place? Why did we have to wait for government intervention, which has now been cut off 1/3 of the way through?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40769 Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #278 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:27pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:42pm: what if the cost benefit anaylsis show FTTH is the best ? so, no cowardly lefty will answer this simple question. no wonder you cannot govern.
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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #279 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:45pm

SPRINT..??

COST EFFECTIVE !!
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COST EFFECTIVE from who' s point of view..??

..not most folk I can assure you/..

cost effective...??

I mean I don't think you lot understand the value of money...

PUT the money where it'll do BEST...when you have it ..USE IT. Don't cry poor... Roll Eyes

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not Cost Effective.!?? Tongue

you make me want to puke.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40769 Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #280 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 7:56am emma - cost benefit, not effective. but same difference. So, no answers ? All lefty cowards ?
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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #281 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:04am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

what if the cost benefit anaylsis show FTTH is the best ?

so, no cowardly lefty will answer this simple question.

no wonder you cannot govern.

Well I don't know about cowardly lefties, but I did answer the question.

Not my fault if the answer wasn't the one you wanted.

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #282 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:29am

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:50pm:

eSprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

what if the cost benefit anaylsis show FTTH is the best ?

It won't, because it isn't.

But I have no doubt whatsoever that a Con-alition 'government' would happily fudge the figures to 'prove' otherwise.

They have a long history of doing precisely that.

that is not answering the question.

did you get lessons from gillard/rudd on not answering questions ?

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #283 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:51am

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

Isn't it funny how, just like on most subjects, the Right have NO idea what they are talking about when it comes to IT?

Know who I'm going to hold responsible if this asshole sticks us with his 2nd-rate internet?

That's right...YOU Luddite fools!!!

You idiots would have us still on 14.4kb/s dial-up if you had your way, 'Oh, but I can do what I
want to do now, why should 'we' pay for b'band?'.

Your insane and irrational hatred of Labor has led you to make some very stupid decisions.

This FTTN bullshyt is but one.

And one that you should pay a VERY heavy price for.

FOOLS!

Oh, and please don't come back with some BS about you having IT quals.

if you support FTTN, especially for some of the pathetic and irrelevant reasons
posted here by the Right, you are NOT knowledgeable enough about IT to even
HOLD an opinion on the matter. And if you use 'cost' as an excuse, you are
simply nothing but selfish pr1cks.

you are such a moron. FTTN will give YOU 50Mbps - hardly second-rate and is still far more than you will ever need.

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #284 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:53am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:56am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:30am:

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

Isn't it funny how, just like on most subjects, the Right have NO idea what they are talking about when it comes to IT?

Know who I'm going to hold responsible if this asshole sticks us with his 2nd-rate internet?

That's right...YOU Luddite fools!!!

Your insane and irrational hatred of Labor has led you to make some very stupid decisions.

This FTTN bullshyt is but one.

And one that you should pay a VERY heavy price for.

FOOLS!

It seems that Hockey is going to borrow billions for his stimulus package, for infrastructure he said.

What better infrastructure than high speed internet, after all he's still going to spend billions, but on slow speed internet.

It will be very interesting to see what his 'infrastructure' will be, propping up the failed building industry, I suppose......there's something in that for him and his band of cronies.

You miss the point the Liberals are locked into sabotaging Australian internet speed for the benefit of Murdoch, you didn't think that he allowed Abbott to be elected for nothing do you.

Murdoch spent many millions on putting Abbott in place in Australia specifically to defend his xxxxxx failing empire.

you sound stupid claiming that.

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