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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #285 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:56am

# wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

;Kat wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

The NBN is such a vital piece of infrastructure for the future of the country, that any attempt
to interfere with it, cut it back, or do away with it, should be regarded as an act of treason.

Vital??...in order to prove it is 'vital' we need to analyse the cost/benefit relationship. So back to the start.

You seem to believe that your ignorance of uses to which the Internet is put, and may be put in the future, is significant.

As has already been established, that belief is consistent with the psychosis commonly known as a God Complex.

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Vital does not cover being able to download porn and movies quicker ...

Your usage is not representative of the population in general.

Rider wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Vital is perfectly arguable in commercial centres, business hubs etc, ...

You evidently have a preference for young boys

delivering telegrams on bicycles.

Even longweekend58 had to admit that the exponential rise in demand for bandwidth shows no sign of slowing. Despite his best efforts (in the same post), he couldn't discredit the forecast that demand will hit the 1Gb/s level by 2020. He made a fool of himself, as usual, by underestimating fibre. In case the realisation eluded you, 1Gb/s is beyond the realistic capacity of copper in the circumstances. The Coalition's nodes will be scrap before the plan is completed.

We need fibre to the premises to meet the observed exponential rise in demand for bandwidth. For the record, I'm quite content to say that I don't know what the bandwidth will be used for. I don't even pretend to know what bandwidth is used for now. In reality, we're all in the position of that bloke who couldn't figure out what use a telephone might be. Our frame of reference is telegrams delivered by bicycle.

like all good conspiracy theorists, this clown misquotes and/or lies. there is in fact NO EXPONENTIAL growth in bandwidth. it is certainly rising but it is not exponential. the claim that we will be NEEDING 1Gbps by 2020 is just silly.

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #286 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 9:37am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:51am:

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

Isn't it funny how, just like on most subjects, the Right have NO idea what they are talking about when it comes to IT?

Know who I'm going to hold responsible if this asshole sticks us with his 2nd-rate internet?

That's right...YOU Luddite fools!!!

You idiots would have us still on 14.4kb/s dial-up if you had your way, 'Oh, but I can do what I
want to do now, why should 'we' pay for b'band?'.

Your insane and irrational hatred of Labor has led you to make some very stupid decisions.

This FTTN bullshyt is but one.

And one that you should pay a VERY heavy price for.

FOOLS!

Oh, and please don't come back with some BS about you having IT quals.

if you support FTTN, especially for some of the pathetic and irrelevant reasons
posted here by the Right, you are NOT knowledgeable enough about IT to even
HOLD an opinion on the matter. And if you use 'cost' as an excuse, you are
simply nothing but selfish pr1cks.

you are such a moron. FTTN will give YOU 50Mbps - hardly second-rate and is still far more than you will ever need.

It could give 100 Mbs but for how long
until it breaks down owing to corroded copper?

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #287 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:00am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:51am:

Kat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

Isn't it funny how, just like on most subjects, the Right have NO idea what they are talking about when it comes to IT?

Know who I'm going to hold responsible if this asshole sticks us with his 2nd-rate internet?

That's right...YOU Luddite fools!!!

You idiots would have us still on 14.4kb/s dial-up if you had your way, 'Oh, but I can do what I
want to do now, why should 'we' pay for b'band?'.

Your insane and irrational hatred of Labor has led you to make some very stupid decisions.

This FTTN bullshyt is but one.

And one that you should pay a VERY heavy price for.

FOOLS!

Oh, and please don't come back with some BS about you having IT quals.

if you support FTTN, especially for some of the pathetic and irrelevant reasons
posted here by the Right, you are NOT knowledgeable enough about IT to even
HOLD an opinion on the matter. And if you use 'cost' as an excuse, you are
simply nothing but selfish pr1cks.

you are such a moron. FTTN will give YOU 50Mbps - hardly second-rate and is still far more than you will ever need.

It could give 100 Mbs but for how long
until it breaks down owing to corroded copper?

you seem to think the entire copper networks exists in water-logged conduits. they aren't. Ive lived in my own home for 32 years and never had any problem with it. perhaps you've heard of the activity called 'maintenance and repair'.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106531 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #288 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:13am Dear Longweekend, come on - get real - you're only defending Turnbull's solution because you're following the Liberal party line. You might fool other people here but not me.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Say goodbye to the NBN Reply #289 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:41am Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:13am: Dear Longweekend, come on - get real - you're only defending Turnbull's solution because you're following the Liberal party line. You might fool other people here but not me. fooling you is rather easy.
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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #290 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:55am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:13am:

Dear Longweekend,
come on - get real -
you're only defending Turnbull's solution because you're
following the Liberal party line.
You might fool other people here but not me.

fooling you is rather easy.

Longweekend,
you only fool yourself.

You have no credibility because you always support the party line
no matter how stupid it is.

You are forgiven

namaste

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #291 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 11:25am

With FTTN does this mean they are replacing all existing copper lines so anyone currently on ADSL2+ for example would have the line from the exchange to the node replaced?

I fail to see how this will increase anyone's speed at all. The latency/ping might be reduced over distance due to the fibre, however this doesn't seem like it would change your upload/download speed as it still goes through the same slow copper wire from the house.

Also how about the connection from Australia to other countries? Is it going to stay the same.

Any clarification on that would be good.

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Re: Say goodbye to the NBN
Reply #292 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 11:27am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 8:56am: