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Reply #30 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:41pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
All we get now on HD TV is 1920 x 1080 pixels.
There is a newer standard that's 3 to 4 times more than that.

The NBN could supply that in real time so we could
have giant screens that were still sharp & clear.

Forget about it now.
Tony has seen to that.




$42 bil so you can get better reception on your wide screen tv, yeah totally worth it



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Reply #31 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:49pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
All we get now on HD TV is 1920 x 1080 pixels.
There is a newer standard that's 3 to 4 times more than that.

The NBN could supply that in real time so we could
have giant screens that were still sharp & clear.

Forget about it now.
Tony has seen to that.




$42 bil so you can get better reception on your wide screen tv, yeah totally worth it





if that was all it would be used for you may have a point ....

the NBN was to service the country, not just Bobby.
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Reply #32 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
All we get now on HD TV is 1920 x 1080 pixels.
There is a newer standard that's 3 to 4 times more than that.

The NBN could supply that in real time so we could
have giant screens that were still sharp & clear.


Forget about it now.
Tony has seen to that.


Is that it?  Nation Building stuff for sure. Right up there with shade clothes over playgrounds. This'll show the rest of the world not to laugh at us....over priced, under delivered and simply unnecessary.

Makes me wonder how far advanced our broadband would be now if private enterprise hadn't effectively frozen investment the minute the intellectual giants Conroy and Krudd announced they were gonna take on the world of NBN cause they knew better.

A bigger facking disaster has never been seen and its still unfolding in front of our eyes.

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Reply #33 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:57pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
All we get now on HD TV is 1920 x 1080 pixels.
There is a newer standard that's 3 to 4 times more than that.

The NBN could supply that in real time so we could
have giant screens that were still sharp & clear.

Forget about it now.
Tony has seen to that.




$42 bil so you can get better reception on your wide screen tv, yeah totally worth it






I gave just one small example of the potential of the NBN.
I am sure there are other's we haven't even thought about yet.
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Reply #34 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:02pm
 
What I want to know is what about those of us who have the new fiber optic cable running past our houses but aren't connected? Will we still get the benefit from it or was it all a waste of time & money laying it in the first place?

I really want to know when/if our speeds will be improved. It would be nice to download one of those pirated movies in about 10 minutes instead of the 2 hours - 2 weeks it currently takes.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:07pm
 
True Blue... wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:16pm:
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whats wrong with the internet now?

it's fast enough for anyone to do gaming, watching videos and downloading documents faster than you can read them...

I can buy on line etc already..

you can Skype and do everything you need to do already....
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Exactly.

We don't need your new-fangled telly-o-phone. We have telegram delivery boys. And we've supplied them with bicycles, so telegrams arrive even faster!
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Reply #36 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:07pm
 
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What I want to know is what about those of us who have the new fiber optic cable running past our houses but aren't connected? Will we still get the benefit from it or was it all a waste of time & money laying it in the first place?

I really want to know when/if our speeds will be improved. It would be nice to download one of those pirated movies in about 10 minutes instead of the 2 hours - 2 weeks it currently takes.  Roll Eyes


And at what cost to download said illegal pirate movie at this enhanced speed? Are people who pride themselves on stealing really that keen to pay for premium speed broadband?
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Reply #37 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:09pm
 
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What I want to know is what about those of us who have the new fiber optic cable running past our houses but aren't connected? Will we still get the benefit from it or was it all a waste of time & money laying it in the first place?
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If NBN fibre passes your premises, you will have been offered free connection at the time it was installed.
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Reply #38 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:57pm:
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I gave just one small example of the potential of the NBN.
I am sure there are other's we haven't even thought about yet.
The old "but what is it good for"? We've been down that rabbit hole before. Truth be known, whatever we think improved infrastructure might be used for, the truth is always something else. Anyway, here's one I prepared earlier: # wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:23pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
So your reasoning for spending $50B is "I think we will need it ...

Actually, I don't pretend to know enough to think that. Besides, didn't Turnbull say it will cost several trillion?
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
... but IM not really sure what for"
...

Unlike you, I don't pretend to know all.

Anyway, over dinner we've been having a little fun with your silly question.

Our first hypothetical builds on your Jetsons reference, I call it "When bmus:// replaces http://". "http://" refers to the protocol by which web pages are transmitted; "bmus://" is an initialism for "Beam me up, Scotty". OK, that's Star Trek, not The Jetsons, but close enough.

The Star Trek transporter supposedly converted matter into energy, beamed the energy to another location, then converted the energy back into matter. It's been calculated that doing so with something the size of a human being would take more energy than is thought to exist in the known universe, so it's a little impractical.

One proposed way around the difficulty is to transmit, not the energy of your matter, but information about that matter. To do that, you'd be blasted into a plasma, the quantum state of every subatomic particle recorded, the information transmitted and you reassembled from matter that's already at the receiving end, using that information.

So far, I'm told, we can blast you into plasma quite effectively. Optical fibre has the necessary capacity, though the NBN hardware at each end would need upgrading. Recording the quantum states and reassembly after transmission will be left as exercises for the class.  Wink

Of course, the amount of data involved (a human body is composed of quite a few atoms and each atom of many particles) is prodigious, so the bandwidth is substantial.

The second hypothetical involves the nano-assembler, on which the likes of Drexler have been working for decades. The idea is that objects be built up, atom by atom.

Goods could, for example, would be purchased online and delivered, not physically, but as instructions for the nano-assembler. Transmitting data for every atom in an object is bound to be bandwidth-intensive.

One interesting side-effect is that so-called "piracy" enters a whole new dimension (or three).

The third is not so hypothetical. It has been proposed that, where there's sufficient penetration of fibre to the premises, services that are currently broadcast be transferred to the network. That frees up valuable spectrum for other uses.

This only works where there's a free fibre connection to every premises. The Coalition's half-baked proposal simply won't cut it. Copper lacks the necessary bandwidth and demanding that people pay for connections to services that are currently broadcast free would be difficult to sell politically.

You asked me to anticipate an application for the residential market. I've given you three possibilities, two of which have serious proponents (much to my surprise). In reality, we're all in the position of that bloke who couldn't figure out what use a telephone might be. Our frame of reference is telegrams delivered by bicycle.

You still haven't clarified what you believe will halt the rise in demand for bandwidth. I presume that's because nothing will.

Bear in mind that video standards, such as 4k and beyond, are about to exceed the bandwidth available in the broadcast spectrum.
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Reply #39 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:17pm
 
Rider wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
... at what cost ...
Experience of those lucky enough to have access is that the NBN generally delivers slightly better services at slightly lower cost. The substantial difference is the availability of vastly better services, albeit at higher costs.
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Reply #40 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:05pm
 
Do I have to repeat myself?


The copper wires we have now are in pits that contain water.
Water corrodes copper & causes faults.
What we will have is a deteriorating system that will get worse over time.

Optic fiber is protected from water & is therefore more reliable.

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Reply #41 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:24pm
 
Bigger things to worry about, Bobby

Like all those Aussie families living out in the bush in shipping containers, no running water or sanitation, no power


all so we can keep Rudd's jihadists in comfort near city conveniences and train stations .... for free


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Reply #42 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 5:18pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:24pm:
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Like all those Aussie families living out in the bush in shipping containers, no running water or sanitation, no power


all so we can keep Rudd's jihadists in comfort near city conveniences and train stations .... for free
All of which you made up.
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Reply #43 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 5:21pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:57pm:
Kat wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:53pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:50pm:
Goodbye NBN



Goodbye, idiot.




So you are going to end it all then  Grin






HILARIOUS.....




  this must a
SORE LOSERS MEETING>>>



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Reply #44 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 6:54pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:24pm:
Bigger things to worry about, Bobby

Like all those Aussie families living out in the bush in shipping containers, no running water or sanitation, no power


all so we can keep Rudd's jihadists in comfort near city conveniences and train stations .... for free





PZ,
Well you'll have nothing to complain about anymore -
your hero Abbott will solve every problem.
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