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Reply #90 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:03pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

My view is that when you have a senior ex-Minister and potential future Government Minister exercising judgement to partner with a convicted drug criminal - then it calls into question her suitability to make good decisions.

My view is that when you take advice from a whinging Yarpie Pom/Yank who has never served his country in the theatre of war, played for an Australian team, or even voted, take it with a grain of salt.

Played for an Australian team?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38874 Gender:	Re: Abbotts alcoholic mistress Reply #91 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:07pm PZ547, do you understand the concept of recently as opposed to very old news?
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Reply #92 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:08pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:57am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:14am:

Pointing out that Tanya Plibersek's husband is a convicted criminal is not a personal attack.

It is a statement of fact.

He is.

Cods has said on three occassions he was caught with drugs recently. Every time I have for her to provide evidence of this as there is none in any news paper. Every time she has ignored the repeated requests from I and others to quantify her answer.

It was another case in point of someone who will throw out a line to smear someone and it didnt matter if it was true or not.

Here you are:

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TANYA PLIBERSEK’S HUSBAND MICHAEL COUTTS-TROTTER SPENT 2 YEARS 9 MONTHS OF A 9-YEAR JAIL SENTENCE FOR SELLING HEROIN.

Coutts-Trotter, despite spending nearly three years in jail for selling heroin

in the 1980s was -- two weeks after Labor won the election – parachuted by John Della Bosca, NSW Education Minister at the time, to the position of Director-General NSW Education. No prior knowledge of education required (although knowledge of the right people, was certainly required). This caused some minor stirring from NSW Teachers Federation with their then President, Maree O’Halloran saying a teacher with this background wouldn’t be allowed to teach.

http://pokiepleasures.com.au/tanya-pliberseks-husband-michael-coutts-trotter-spent-2-years-9-months-of-a-9-year-jail-sentence-for-selling-heroin/

And perhaps those of you who claim this information 'cannot be found/substantiated' --- you should save this. Because others certainly will

From the Sydney Morning Herald:

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On their very first date, in 1991, Michael Coutts-Trotter told Plibersek that he had served almost three years of a nine-year prison sentence on a drugs charge. He'd done time in maximum-security jails like Long Bay, Bathurst and Parramatta ("A genuinely bleak place," he calls it) before ending up in Silverwater and work release. After being paroled in 1988, he spent a year at a Salvation Army rehab facility

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/cool-calm-elected-20120917-2612j.html

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Re: Abbotts alcoholic mistress
Reply #93 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:15pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

PZ547, do you understand the concept of

recently

as opposed to very old news?

The 'recently' applied to the number of times Cods raised this issue. A badly constructed sentence has confused you. It should have read along the lines of: ' Cods has said several times recently that Pilbersek's husband was imprisoned for drug offences'

THAT is the 'recently' to which you apparently object in your futile attempts to cover for Labor

Now -- why don't you waste some more time addressing what were your OWN claims, I think, about there being no record of Coutt's Trotter's imprisonment for drugs offences ?

I mean, don't force me to quote the many dozens of reports of Pilbersek's partner's criminal record. They're very easily accessible online

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Mr Coutts-Trotter, whose only formal qualification is a journalism degree, was in charge of Australia's largest education bureaucracy, overseeing almost 100,000 people.

He was previously director-general of the NSW Department of Commerce after a period as chief-of-staff to former treasurer Michael Egan. Mr Coutts-Trotter's rise through the public service since starting work for Mr Egan as a press secretary in 1996 is even more remarkable because

he is a rehabilitated drug addict; he served two years and nine months of a nine-year jail sentence for selling heroin.

After his release from jail, Mr Coutts-Trotter entered a Salvation Army drug rehabilitation program and completed his journalism degree at the University of Technology, Sydney

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/blogs/learning-curve/first-head-rolls-in-nsw-public-service-its-an-education-20110329-1ce0v.html

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Abbotts alcoholic mistress Reply #94 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:16pm So Mels sad little sock calls 25 years ago recent. Thanks Mels sad little sock, you have proven cods a liar.
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Reply #95 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:17pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

PZ547, do you understand the concept of

recently

as opposed to very old news?

The 'recently' applied to the number of times Cods raised this issue. A badly constructed sentence has confused you. It should have read along the lines of: ' Cods has said several times recently that Pilbersek's husband was imprisoned for drug offences'

THAT is the 'recently' to which you apparently object in your futile attempts to cover for Labor

Now -- why don't you waste some more time addressing what were your OWN claims, I think, about there being no record of Coutt's Trotter's imprisonment for drugs offences ?

I mean, don't force me to quote the many dozens of reports of Pilbersek's partner's criminal record. They're very easily accessible online

Example: Quote:

Mr Coutts-Trotter, whose only formal qualification is a journalism degree, was in charge of Australia's largest education bureaucracy, overseeing almost 100,000 people.

He was previously director-general of the NSW Department of Commerce after a period as chief-of-staff to former treasurer Michael Egan. Mr Coutts-Trotter's rise through the public service since starting work for Mr Egan as a press secretary in 1996 is even more remarkable because

he is a rehabilitated drug addict; he served two years and nine months of a nine-year jail sentence for selling heroin.

After his release from jail, Mr Coutts-Trotter entered a Salvation Army drug rehabilitation program and completed his journalism degree at the University of Technology, Sydney

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/blogs/learning-curve/first-head-rolls-in-nsw-public-service-its-an-education-20110329-1ce0v.html

Not true, cods had said several times he was RECENTLY charged, do keep up princess. Roll Eyes

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Reply #96 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:18pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:

So Mels sad little sock calls 25 years ago recent. Thanks Mels sad little sock, you have proven cods a liar.

Cods is no liar, you illiterate, concentration-challenged little Labor slave

Scroll upwards. Proof positive and plenty more where that came from

Now apologise to Cods

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Reply #97 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:19pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

PZ547 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:57am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:14am:

Pointing out that Tanya Plibersek's husband is a convicted criminal is not a personal attack.

It is a statement of fact.

He is.

Cods has said on three occassions he was caught with drugs recently. Every time I have for her to provide evidence of this as there is none in any news paper. Every time she has ignored the repeated requests from I and others to quantify her answer.

It was another case in point of someone who will throw out a line to smear someone and it didnt matter if it was true or not.

Here you are:

Quote:

TANYA PLIBERSEK’S HUSBAND MICHAEL COUTTS-TROTTER SPENT 2 YEARS 9 MONTHS OF A 9-YEAR JAIL SENTENCE FOR SELLING HEROIN.

Coutts-Trotter, despite spending nearly three years in jail for selling heroin

in the 1980s was -- two weeks after Labor won the election – parachuted by John Della Bosca, NSW Education Minister at the time, to the position of Director-General NSW Education. No prior knowledge of education required (although knowledge of the right people, was certainly required). This caused some minor stirring from NSW Teachers Federation with their then President, Maree O’Halloran saying a teacher with this background wouldn’t be allowed to teach.

http://pokiepleasures.com.au/tanya-pliberseks-husband-michael-coutts-trotter-spent-2-years-9-months-of-a-9-year-jail-sentence-for-selling-heroin/

And perhaps those of you who claim this information 'cannot be found/substantiated' --- you should save this. Because others certainly will

From the Sydney Morning Herald:

Quote:

On their very first date, in 1991, Michael Coutts-Trotter told Plibersek that he had served almost three years of a nine-year prison sentence on a drugs charge. He'd done time in maximum-security jails like Long Bay, Bathurst and Parramatta ("A genuinely bleak place," he calls it) before ending up in Silverwater and work release. After being paroled in 1988, he spent a year at a Salvation Army rehab facility

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/cool-calm-elected-20120917-2612j.html

This is the information which Cods (and myself, by the way) mentioned recently

And we were correct about Pilbersek's spouse

and Labor losers are spewing

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Re: Abbotts alcoholic mistress
Reply #98 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:10pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:

So Mels sad little sock calls 25 years ago recent. Thanks Mels sad little sock, you have proven cods a liar.

Cods is no liar, you illiterate, concentration-challenged little Labor slave

Scroll upwards. Proof positive and plenty more where that came from

Now apologise to Cods

Since when is a couple of years ago now 25?

cods wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Verge wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Hey Andre, nice of you to throw mud at Tanya's husband, but he sounds like someone who turned his life around and made something of himself;

In 1986, at the age of 21, he was imprisoned for less than three years of a nine-year sentence for conspiracy to import narcotics. At the time he was a heroin user. He recovered from his addiction through a Salvation Army program.

I think its pretty average to throw morality questions at a woman because he husband did the wrong, owned it, served his punishment then proceeded to right his wrongs, all of which happened 27 years ago. It is also something Coutts-Trotter has never hid, denied or tried to blame on anyone else.

He is also someone who the Liberal Party also saw good things in and have kept on board during their term in government.

If the best you have on someone is what they did 27 years ago, then you are about stuffed in the credibility stakes.

\he was caught buying drugs a couple of years ago.. what are you talking about???.. Grin

and dont forget you guys dont mind bringing up Abbott Uni days..and he hasnt punched a hole in the wall since them days.. Wink

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And why not, if you will permit me; why shouldn’t I, if you will permit me; spend my first week as prime minister, should that happen, on this, on your, country - Abbott with the Garma People Aug 13

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Reply #99 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:22pm

Here is cods again;

cods wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

[quote author=Verge link=1376531689/8#8 date=1376558225]What he was longy was NSW chief of staff For NSW treasury for six years, and NSW director general for the department of commerce.

He knew people and he knew money and you can't run any department without superior skills in both.

Under ofarrel he has held the position you mention, the director general of finance and the director general of community services.

He obviously has the skills, and it's weak to throw up what someone did, and served their time for in 1987 some 20 years later. [/quote]

fair enough verge I will drink to that.. although the gentleman was nicked for buying drugs again not that long ago... Shocked

sorry to remind you.. but will you have the same opinion when a lefty brings up ABbott past of more than 20 years ago when he is accused of knocking a hole in the wall..???????...

you see its a two way street when it comes to the past..

and a hole in the wall isnt near as bad as drugs.. is it?...

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And why not, if you will permit me; why shouldn’t I, if you will permit me; spend my first week as prime minister, should that happen, on this, on your, country - Abbott with the Garma People Aug 13

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Reply #100 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:24pm

Cods again on the same subject, again slandering with no proof anywhere from anyone, just making random crap up.

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Are conservatives psychopaths?

How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs.....and then low and behold got busted again a couple of years ago buying ecstasy..

so ask away... I am sure Tanya will give you some good answers to your question..

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And why not, if you will permit me; why shouldn’t I, if you will permit me; spend my first week as prime minister, should that happen, on this, on your, country - Abbott with the Garma People Aug 13

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Re: Abbotts alcoholic mistress
Reply #101 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:32pm

woody2014 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

Its only illegal if you get caught, Andrei.

That's what the MPs used to say back in Nam. Tosspot foreign accountants don't get a say in running our country.

Based on his 6% of the vote, it seems we'd prefer to hand this over to blokes like Clive.

Back in NAM ! Are you a wannabe ?

Son, I was a killer before you were born, and I'll be a killer after you're dead.

Keep opening your mouth and you'll get a nice surprise.

Every good boy deserve fruit.

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Reply #102 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:33pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

woody2014 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

Its only illegal if you get caught, Andrei.

That's what the MPs used to say back in Nam. Tosspot foreign accountants don't get a say in running our country.

Based on his 6% of the vote, it seems we'd prefer to hand this over to blokes like Clive.

Back in NAM ! Are you a wannabe ?

Son, I was a killer before you were born, and I'll be a killer after you're dead.

Keep opening your mouth and you'll get a nice surprise.

Every good boy deserve fruit.

dream on

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Reply #103 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:37pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

My view is that when you have a senior ex-Minister and potential future Government Minister exercising judgement to partner with a convicted drug criminal - then it calls into question her suitability to make good decisions.

My view is that when you take advice from a whinging Yarpie Pom/Yank who has never served his country in the theatre of war, played for an Australian team, or even voted, take it with a grain of salt.

Played for an Australian team?

You on the Xbox again old son?

Coming to wave me off on friday?

Heading off to war, are you? I'll give you some advice, - don't bugger with the NGOs.

We run the show. P!sspot Yarpie accountants are neither seen or heard.

You'd better remember that, son.

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Reply #104 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:37pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

My view is that when you have a senior ex-Minister and potential future Government Minister exercising judgement to partner with a convicted drug criminal - then it calls into question her suitability to make good decisions.

My view is that when you take advice from a whinging Yarpie Pom/Yank who has never served his country in the theatre of war, played for an Australian team, or even voted, take it with a grain of salt.

Played for an Australian team?

You on the Xbox again old son?

Coming to wave me off on friday?

Heading off to war, are you? I'll give you some advice, - don't bugger with the NGOs.

We run the show. P!sspot Yarpie accountants are neither seen or heard.

You'd better remember that, son.

Did that 46 years ago noddy Wink

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