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Reply #30 - Oct 25th, 2013 at 8:57am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2013 at 9:15pm:
This is just wrong. Can you imagine the outcry if the Jews did something like this?

Religious levy costs Queensland abattoirs thousands each month

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/religious-levy-costs-queensland-abattoirs-thousands-each-month/story-fnihsrf2-1226743106235

QUEENSLAND abattoirs are being slugged thousands of dollars a month through a religious levy on meat exports so powerful Muslim clerics in Jakarta can raise money for Islamic schools and mosques.

The Halal certification fees can cost some meat processors up to $27,000 a month.

The Indonesian Council of Ulama (MUI), the top Islamic body which orders fatwa religious rulings, has even banned a Brisbane business from operating - because it was not charging Queensland abattoirs enough to give the religious tick-off to export meat.

The scandal has stopped most of Queensland's Halal meat exports to Indonesia, as angry abattoir operators boycott the more expensive Halal certifiers endorsed by the MUI.



That's just business. Nobody is forced to do it. If abattoirs don't want to slaughter halal, they don't have to.

The Australian Government put all kinds of expensive red tape in the way of Indonesian businesses trying to export food into Australia.

Do yo think Australian abattoirs are allowed to export meat into Israel willy-nilly? If so think again.
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Reply #31 - Oct 26th, 2013 at 12:08pm
 
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All the more reason to reopen the live export trade, and/or let Indonesians run their own abattoirs in Australia.


Gandalf, do you support free trade? Why is this not simply a reason to reject these demands by the Indonesian government, rather than allowing them to compete on an even less even field?

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This has nothing to do with halal job discrimination on the domestic market though. But any opportunity to demonise Australian muslims for having their own domestic halal industry, no matter how irrelevant eh FD.


Are you suggesting the criticism is unfair? Would you have preferred I started a new thread?

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You seriously worried about that amount?


It is $27000 per business per month. Sounds like a significant amount to me.

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The aus government gives Indonesia aid in the hundreds of milions each year.


So we can easily apply pressure to get rid of these absurd demands on our business?

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That's just business.


Not in this country.

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Nobody is forced to do it.


It is required by the Indonesian government of people wishing to do business with them. If you are suggesting they are free to go broke instead, then yes you are correct. What is your point?

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The Australian Government put all kinds of expensive red tape in the way of Indonesian businesses trying to export food into Australia.


Such as? Does any of it involve forcing them to donate enourmous sums of money to religious organisations that have nothing to do with their business? Is any of it effectively a religious tax on Indonesian business?

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Do yo think Australian abattoirs are allowed to export meat into Israel willy-nilly? If so think again.


I have suggested plenty of times that you find something equivalent demanded by Jews. So far you have come up with nothing.
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Reply #32 - Oct 26th, 2013 at 3:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 26th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Why is this not simply a reason to reject these demands by the Indonesian government, rather than allowing them to compete on an even less even field?


Sure, but I would suggest you take it up with Tony Abbott. I assume this was one of the pro-Indonesian agreements that was renewed by him in his panicked attempt to diffuse the tensions with Indonesia that he himself had created.

But if you're looking for some sort of endorsement for this levy from me, I'm afraid you are going to be dissappointed.

freediver wrote on Oct 26th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Are you suggesting the criticism is unfair? Would you have preferred I started a new thread?


You would love me to say its unfair wouldn't you? But no, I'm just saying it is entirely irrelevant to the issue of job discrimination in Abattoirs - you know the actual topic of this thread. And as such, it is nothing more than a rather shameless and gratuitous plug for anti-islamic sentiment - yet again.
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Reply #33 - Oct 26th, 2013 at 4:10pm
 
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Sure, but I would suggest you take it up with Tony Abbott. I assume this was one of the pro-Indonesian agreements that was renewed by him in his panicked attempt to diffuse the tensions with Indonesia that he himself had created.


That's a pretty big assumption Gandalf.

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But if you're looking for some sort of endorsement for this levy from me, I'm afraid you are going to be dissappointed.


Wow, it almost sounds like you disapprove. But I don't want to assume. It's just hard to know what Muslims think.

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You would love me to say its unfair wouldn't you?


Just being straight would be a good start.

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But no, I'm just saying it is entirely irrelevant to the issue of job discrimination in Abattoirs


So why did you completely ignore my response to that point when you made it previously?
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