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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #45 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ok, so Liberal debt good, Labor debt bad

Stimulus doesn't necessarily mean debt.

During the ASian Meltdown - far worse for our region than the GFC - Howard and Costello had stimulus without debt. Saying that you defeated the GFC and it only cost $300B sounds pretty lame compared to that.

And yes, stimulus doesn't necessarily mean more debt. It can actually be the opposite. It is just that Labor has no idea of how to spend less than you earn having only once in history ever achieved that.

During the ASian Meltdown - far worse for our region than the GFC

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I agree with your sentiments DNA!

However, in would put the vast majority of Longy's "Economic Thoughties", as being closer to -

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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #46 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ok, so Liberal debt good, Labor debt bad

Stimulus doesn't necessarily mean debt.

During the ASian Meltdown - far worse for our region than the GFC - Howard and Costello had stimulus without debt. Saying that you defeated the GFC and it only cost $300B sounds pretty lame compared to that.

And yes, stimulus doesn't necessarily mean more debt. It can actually be the opposite. It is just that Labor has no idea of how to spend less than you earn having only once in history ever achieved that.

having only once in history ever achieved that

More BS from the master of just making it up..

don't know your history do you? Keating had ONE surplus while Costello had 5 in a row. no one else has done so.

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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #47 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 6:19am

Is it only one week since we said 'now the fun begins'?

Even Swanny didn't put the bite on China for a loan in his first week on the job.

A big, big stimulus spend........... that's what we need.

I can't wait for the backpedaling when Malcolm Turnbull takes over.

All those hundreds of posts criticising Swan for his stimulus spending......only to have to praise Hockey for his........... haha!!!!!!

Don't you hate it when your beloved party spits in your face? but you still have to stay faithful.

I'm having such fun with this and it's only the first of many Grin

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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #48 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:31am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ok, so Liberal debt good, Labor debt bad

Stimulus doesn't necessarily mean debt.

During the ASian Meltdown - far worse for our region than the GFC - Howard and Costello had stimulus without debt. Saying that you defeated the GFC and it only cost $300B sounds pretty lame compared to that.

And yes, stimulus doesn't necessarily mean more debt. It can actually be the opposite. It is just that Labor has no idea of how to spend less than you earn having only once in history ever achieved that.

having only once in history ever achieved that

More BS from the master of just making it up..

don't know your history do you? Keating had ONE surplus while Costello had 5 in a row. no one else has done so.

Keating has surpluses in 1988, 1989 and 1990.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #49 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:57am Infrastructure spending won't affect a surplus because it's capital outlay. It will affect debt though
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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #50 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ok, so Liberal debt good, Labor debt bad

Stimulus doesn't necessarily mean debt.

During the ASian Meltdown - far worse for our region than the GFC - Howard and Costello had stimulus without debt. Saying that you defeated the GFC and it only cost $300B sounds pretty lame compared to that.

And yes, stimulus doesn't necessarily mean more debt. It can actually be the opposite. It is just that Labor has no idea of how to spend less than you earn having only once in history ever achieved that.

having only once in history ever achieved that

More BS from the master of just making it up..

don't know your history do you? Keating had ONE surplus while Costello had 5 in a row. no one else has done so.

With money essentially stolen from the taxpayer and welfare recips by selling assets, smacking the welfare system, and cutting infrastructure spending to nothing.

That's no way to run a country.

But these ultra-conservative fecksticks STILL think their failed and thoroughly discredited form of govt is what the county wants and needs.

Wrong on both counts, assholes.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #51 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:00am Rupert Murdoch forgot to report on Hockey's stimulus spending Never mind, the secret's out
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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #52 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:06am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:00am:

Rupert Murdoch forgot to report on Hockey's stimulus spending Cry

Never mind, the secret's out

Hockey will use money stolen from the poor and welfare recips, to stimulate businesses that neither need nor deserve it.

And the poor will continue to suffer homelessness and hunger, while being forced to carry the blame for the circumstances
they are forced into..

It's the Conservative Way, don't y'know.

**SPIT!!**

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #53 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:11am Verge wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:57am: Infrastructure spending won't affect a surplus because it's capital outlay. It will affect debt though Ok, so we can have a $600 billion debt and still come out in the black. I don't think Hockey knows what the infrastructure will be yet.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59332 Here Gender:	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #54 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:14am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:00am: Rupert Murdoch forgot to report on Hockey's stimulus spending Never mind, the secret's out It was always obvious that Abbott and Hockey rate below Laurel and Hardy on economics so what does anyone expect?
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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #55 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:15am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

Verge wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:57am:

Infrastructure spending won't affect a surplus because it's capital outlay. It will affect debt though

Ok, so we can have a $600 billion debt and still come out in the black.

I don't think Hockey knows what the infrastructure will be yet.

More prisons for refugees?

'Work camps' for the unemployed?

Swim-wear manufacturing plants?

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #56 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:27am Dnarever wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:31am: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm: ... don't know your history do you? Keating had ONE surplus ... Keating has surpluses in 1988, 1989 and 1990. I used to enjoy it when longweekend58 made a fool of himself. He's so consistent that, now it's become quite boring.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #57 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:55am There's spending then there's spending pansi, it won't be on a dogsh.t scheme like pink batts or every school gets a new hall whether they need one or not. I'm sure we will save a dollar or two by not letting another 50,00 freeloaders turn up to be looked after by the taxpayer for the rest of their natural lives.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75183 Gender:	Re: Goodbye surplus Reply #58 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:31am BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BIG BAD DEBT? you were all worried your grandkids would still be paying off the debt, now that their grandkids will be paying it off it doesn't matter?
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Re: Goodbye surplus
Reply #59 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:52am

red baron wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

There's spending then there's spending pansi, it won't be on a dogsh.t scheme like pink batts or every school gets a new hall whether they need one or not.

I'm sure we will save a dollar or two by not letting another 50,00 freeloaders turn up to be looked after by the taxpayer for the rest of their natural lives.

How many times must these BS claims be debunked by experts before it finally sinks into the heads of the conservatives that they are, and have always been, 100% wrong with these claims?

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