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Reply #1110 - Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 9:56am

Cods and Pansi, still going strong:

cods wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 9:48am:

freediver wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 9:38am:

Pansi is not the sort to let the fact she has not thought about a topic at all get in the way of prolifically posting what she "thinks" on a topic across multiple threads.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Pansi's concept of freedom lost:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

I have lost nothing because I never wanted to publish crude cartoons about Muhammed or Jesus or any other prophet.

So tell us Pansi, at what point would you consider yourself to have lost something, and at what point would you actually stand up for your rights? Never? Better to let other people do it for you?

I wouldn't have a clue at this point in time, but it's certainly not some cartoon offending Muhammad. To me it would have to be a lot more important than that. Why start a war over a cartoon? Pathetic.

I stand up for my rights, but I'm not standing up for your fight against Islam, that's your baby and I'm happy to let you have it.

She does not even realise what is being taken from her:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:24pm:

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I stand up for my rights

freediver
You have a right to mock Muhammed. So far all I see is you trying to get rid of it. You stand up for nothing. You don't even know if you would stand up for any right if they tried to take it off you.

I do have a right to mock Muhammod, I am even allowed to mock Muhammod if I want to, but I don't want to. I don't even want to mock Jesus (although The Life of Brian is hilarious) or religion (except those Jews banging that little black box on their head against the wall are funny).

But all in all, I much prefer to mock Abbott, Shorty, Julie Bishop and Obama.

Of course I don't know what my reaction would be, until I know what's getting taken off me.

pansi isnt the only one who doesnt realise what is being taken from her..

what about her rights FoS so to speak on the SHED you have sneakily started and women are n ot allowed... you do know that discrimination dont you????......

I mean here you are prattling on about YOUR version of FoS but discrimination is A>OK...

hypocrisy is thy name..

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Reply #1111 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:57am

About the Charlie Hebdo attackers:

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

I feel we are all human even our extremists we have to show some respect.. and maybe they will get the m essage...we are open to our own faults...and we are open to fixing them...in the hope it will rub off onto them...well nothing like HOPE is there..

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1112 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:45pm I guess its your week off Brian.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41851	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1113 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:46pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:45pm: I guess its your week off Brian. Don't tempt him.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95814 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1114 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:49pm I blame Islam. Cods was always such a reasonable poster in.the past. I wonder if she’s married one of them.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1115 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 3:08pm Well we do know that islam turned Soren into an hysterical wreck.
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Reply #1116 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

Well we do know that islam turned Soren into an hysterical wreck.

I would be happy for Islam to carry on with its 1400 year old civil war in 'Islamic lands'.
Your bringing it to the West is what pisses me off - and millions of others. You guys can have all the backward ideas and customs and feuds in Muslims countries, just don't bring them here. None of your Islamic ideas are an improvement on anything here, not the mainstream's ideas and customs, not the 'tiny minority's', not the sunni way, not the shia way, not any other. They are all huge leaps backward in Western societies.
I don't want to respect your medieval creed, I do not want to valorise this or that element of your fractious, feuding, tribal, honour-based omerta.

You side with the Hizbies over the Charlie murders, Gandy. And you are supposed to be the reasonable, reforming Muslim?? Geddafakaouda'ere.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1117 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:17pm Soren wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:02pm: Your bringing it to the West Me? I'm sorry my good friend but I was born here. I think people like me create some difficulties for you. Your simplistic formula of "go back where you came from" obviously can't be applied. Where would you deport me to Soren?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49042 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1118 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:38pm Islam turned the middle east into a hysterical wreck.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1119 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:41pm as well as one of the greatest civilizations the world has ever seen.
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Reply #1120 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:41pm:

as well as one of the greatest civilizations the world has ever seen.

So what happened since then? 800 years of unbelievable backwardness by people who are supposedly in possession of God's last revelation. You had a massive caliphate empire which dragged you down to the bottom. All very Islamic, all very backward.

Ah the Ottoman Turks. Not pure blood Arabs. That explains it. Or what?

This greatest civilisation nonsense is really childish Gandy. How do you explain the 800 intervening years of decline under a strong caliphate (other than by claiming Muslim victimhood)?i

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Reply #1121 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:27am

Soren wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

This greatest civilisation nonsense is really childish Gandy. How do you explain the 800 intervening years of decline under a strong caliphate (other than by claiming Muslim victimhood)?i

So the islamic empire wasn't great - because for 800 years after its heyday it was crap?

You really running with this Soren?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49042 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1122 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 9:01am The Roman empire vastly outdid the Caliphate economically and on political inclusiveness. The only thing the Caliphate was good at was keeping people down. It did not even come close to what had been before.
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Phemanderac Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3507 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1123 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:00am well, that and maths...
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95814 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1124 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:09am freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 9:01am: The Roman empire vastly outdid the Caliphate economically and on political inclusiveness. The only thing the Caliphate was good at was keeping people down. It did not even come close to what had been before. Ah. You’ve been reading Abu again.
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