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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1245 - Mar 15^th, 2015 at 9:59am I'm one of those muslims who goes around slaughtering cartoonists - with my mind. You know, like all the muslims.
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Reply #1246 - Mar 15^th, 2015 at 9:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 15^th, 2015 at 9:59am:

I'm one of those muslims who goes around slaughtering cartoonists - with my mind. You know, like all the muslims.

Here's a question for you, Brain, HB, PB.

The Islamic Human Rights Commission has given Charlie Hebdo an international award for 'Islamophobia', two months after 12 members of staff were shot dead in a terror attack.

Who are your Islamophobes of the year for you? Do you agree with the IHRC?
Mind you, their spokesthingy thinks the award is a funny thing, a satire:

Massoud Shadjareh, the group's chairman, told the International Business Times that it was "a satirical thing", and was designed to counter the image of Muslims as "dry and angry". "If people think Muslims should be on the receiving end of satire, then why cannot Muslims give it, too?" he said, adding: "We have a sense of humour and we can give it back."

Sense of humour, eh? What funny evil bvggers they are, these Muslims Human Rights Commissioners.

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Reply #1247 - Mar 16^th, 2015 at 6:45am

You know whats the definition of satire S?

The same time the French leaders were walking down the street arm in arm with world leaders (including Netanyahu - a punchline in itself) in the name of freedom of expression - French authorities were knocking down the door of a renowned French blogger and arresting him for saying bad things about jews.

This sh*t really can't be made up.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #1248 - Mar 16^th, 2015 at 9:32am

Moderate Islam is the problem.

The problem is "moderate Islam" - because "moderate Islam" is largely indistinguishable from "radical Islam" in its views on free speech, Jews, the role of women, apostasy, and the special privilege that must be accorded to Islam by everybody else. The difference between the savages who murdered Charb and his colleagues and the "moderates" who pinned Islamophobe of the Year medals on their corpses is that the jihadists are killing a few individuals while the mods are killing the very spirit of a free society. If you believe in all the above, you can't be a citizen of a functioning pluralist western society, and, wittingly or otherwise, you're part of the campaign to replace that society with something else.

Former Labour man Leo McKinstry writes in The Daily Express:

When the bloodthirsty Islamist brute nicknamed "Jihadi John" was exposed as a London computer graduate and terror suspect called Mohammed Emwazi, the cry went up, "How was he allowed to slip through the net?"

But it was an absurd question.

There is no net.

Indeed. Unless "moderate Islam" can be prevailed upon to change its views on free speech, etc, it's part of the problem, and ensures that instead of a "net" there's a vast comfort zone for the likes of Mohammed Emwazi to roam and sport in.
http://www.steynonline.com/6847/mods-vs-choppers

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Reply #1249 - Mar 16^th, 2015 at 1:02pm

Soren wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Unless "moderate Islam" can be prevailed upon to change its views on free speech, etc, it's part of the problem, and ensures that instead of a "net" there's a vast comfort zone for the likes of Mohammed Emwazi to roam and sport in.

A related question:

Soren, will you defend the right of women in Australia to wear the hijab?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95782 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1250 - Mar 16^th, 2015 at 10:53pm Absolutely not. And nor will he defend the right of bearded numpties. Lutheran beard-strokers, nurses and flying nuns are another matter entirely. Like the dear old boy, they have the right not to be offended.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1251 - Mar 17^th, 2015 at 6:32am In the other thread Soren decided to take the 'eliminate Islam through rigorous debate' line. He seems to be implying he doesn't want to impinge on people's rights - while going to great pains to avoid actually saying it. I'm just giving him the opportunity to clarify this.
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Reply #1252 - Mar 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am

The old boy would love to ban the sack-wearers and bearded numpties. He just wants to pretend he's all about Freeeedom.

I'm sure he'll give you a wheezy diatribe about "not tolerating" them in the guise of banning them - with a good old stupid and mendacious meltdown as per the old boy formula.

Always, absolutely, never ever, no?

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Reply #1253 - Mar 17^th, 2015 at 5:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 17^th, 2015 at 6:32am:

In the other thread Soren decided to take the 'eliminate Islam through rigorous debate' line. He seems to be implying he doesn't want to impinge on people's rights - while going to great pains to avoid actually saying it. I'm just giving him the opportunity to clarify this.

They also have the right to tattoo "press me I'm a tit" on their forehead. But the point is not about their rights, or more precisely it is not about just their rights.

I think I gave you a fairly lengthy explanation elsewhere so I am not sure what all this 'oh-yeah-but?!?" is about. They have the right but others also have the right to not respect their choice and to voice their opposition and their views. It should not be protected by law and so places like schools, hospitals, business should be able to order their removal if it clashes with their standards and expectations. They should be allowed to choose, to have the right not to accommodate it.

The niqab and burqa should be banned in public places and people should have the right to ban them on their private premises.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1254 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:08am In response to citicisms of the Isreali PM for declaring there will never be a Palestinian state: MumboJumbo wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 10:16am: It's really got nothing to do with Israel. It's classic anti-semitism, playing on the old jews-run-the-world card.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1255 - Mar 23^rd, 2015 at 7:32pm That shut you up, Gandy.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95782 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1256 - Mar 23^rd, 2015 at 7:56pm You do like shutting people up, dear boy. Is this about not tolerating them or cherishing their freedoms? I’m keen to.know what you think.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1257 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 5:17am Soren wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2015 at 7:32pm: That shut you up, Gandy. It sure did. I literally gave up after you compared the wearing of the hijab with tatooing "press me I'm a tit" on the forehead.
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Reply #1258 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:18pm

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 17^th, 2015 at 6:32am:

In the other thread Soren decided to take the 'eliminate Islam through rigorous debate' line. He seems to be implying he doesn't want to impinge on people's rights - while going to great pains to avoid actually saying it. I'm just giving him the opportunity to clarify this.

They also have the right to tattoo "press me I'm a tit" on their forehead. But the point is not about their rights, or more precisely it is not about just their rights.

I think I gave you a fairly lengthy explanation elsewhere so I am not sure what all this 'oh-yeah-but?!?" is about. They have the right but others also have the right to not respect their choice and to voice their opposition and their views. It should not be protected by law and so places like schools, hospitals, business should be able to order their removal if it clashes with their standards and expectations. They should be allowed to choose, to have the right not to accommodate it.

The niqab and burqa should be banned in public places and people should have the right to ban them on their private premises.

Lets face it the niqab and burqa are the most ludicrous things even to be debated. One would have to be mentally backward to even wear one let alone beg for the bloody privilege. The mussey men are the problem period. They are happy to strut around in a 3 piece suite and literallyShyte on their own wives and children by making them wear it. If they are told that's religious and do it because of that then they are simply backwardMorons. It is simply an oppressive backward culture full of slow people taken advantage of by pigs. That's the plain truth. There is no debate its plainbloody stupid. Ever seen a retard drive wearing one bloody hell stay clear.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1259 - Mar 25^th, 2015 at 1:11pm SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:18pm: Lets face it the niqab and burqa are the most ludicrous things even to be debated. So why bother Matty?
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