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Reply #1260 - Mar 25th, 2015 at 9:13pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Mar 25th, 2015 at 1:11pm:
SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24th, 2015 at 11:18pm:
Lets face it the niqab and burqa are the most ludicrous things even to be debated.


So why bother Matty?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Matty I don't . You seem confused baby Breath. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1261 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD.  You are comparing Apples and Oranges.   Perhaps you should open a fruit stand at the market?

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Reply #1262 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:19pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24th, 2015 at 11:18pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 17th, 2015 at 5:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 17th, 2015 at 6:32am:
In the other thread Soren decided to take the 'eliminate Islam through rigorous debate' line. He seems to be implying he doesn't want to impinge on people's rights - while going to great pains to avoid actually saying it. I'm just giving him the opportunity to clarify this.



They also have the right to tattoo "press me I'm a tit" on their forehead. But the point is not about their rights, or more precisely it is not about just their rights.

I think I gave you a fairly lengthy explanation elsewhere so I am not sure what all this 'oh-yeah-but?!?" is about.  They have the right but others also have the right to not respect their choice and to voice their opposition and their views. It should not be protected by law and so places like schools, hospitals, business should be able to order their removal if it clashes with their standards and expectations. They should be allowed to choose, to have the right not to accommodate it.

The niqab and burqa should be banned in public places and people should have the right to ban them on their private premises.


Lets face it the niqab and burqa are the most ludicrous things even to be debated. One would have to be mentally backward to even wear one let alone beg for the bloody privilege. The mussey men are the problem period. They are happy to strut around in a 3 piece suite and literallyShyte on their own wives and children by making them wear it. If they are told that's religious and do it because of that then they are simply backwardMorons. It is simply an oppressive  backward culture full of slow people taken advantage of by pigs. That's the plain truth. There is no debate its plainbloody stupid. Ever seen a retard drive wearing one bloody hell stay clear.


I am sensing a certain depth of feeling here...

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Reply #1263 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?

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Reply #1264 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 11:30pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?



The German Chancellor is the equivalent of an 8th century prophet, eh?

You studied IS at the University of Balogney, eh?
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Reply #1265 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:53am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?



The German Chancellor is the equivalent of an 8th century prophet, eh?

You studied IS at the University of Balogney, eh?

What? Mohammmed is no longer a unifying figure for... er.... Mohammedans?

When did this happen?





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Reply #1266 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:47am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?



The German Chancellor is the equivalent of an 8th century prophet, eh?

You studied IS at the University of Balogney, eh?

What? Mohammmed is no longer a unifying figure for... er.... Mohammedans?

When did this happen?


After he died and his successors duked it out to see who'd be the new Caliph.  Forgotten the Sunni Shiite divide?    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1267 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 11:02am
 
Whereas today's Nazis live in harmony with one another...
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Reply #1268 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 11:39am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 11:02am:
Whereas today's Nazis live in harmony with one another...


Yes, they do seem enjoy living their mottos, don't they?  One People, One Nation, One Government!  Sounds rather similar to what you're peddling FD.  Funny, hey?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1269 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 2:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?



The German Chancellor is the equivalent of an 8th century prophet, eh?

You studied IS at the University of Balogney, eh?

What? Mohammmed is no longer a unifying figure for... er.... Mohammedans?

When did this happen?







But of course! Ein volk, ein welt, ein Fuhrer.

There’s that University of Balogney education, old chap. Good to see some of its been passed down to FD.

That’s the good thing about education, no? It’s a force for good in the world.

It makes us so much better than those awful tinted races.
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Reply #1270 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:18pm
 
So you lot would become apologists for Nazism as soon as Nazis started disagreeing with each other?
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Reply #1271 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
So you lot would become apologists for Nazism as soon as Nazis started disagreeing with each other?


Why don't you tell us for a change, what you'd do about Nazis and Muslims FD?  Lets hear your thoughts, OK?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #1272 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:59pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:46pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
So you lot would become apologists for Nazism as soon as Nazis started disagreeing with each other?


Why don't you tell us for a change, what you'd do about Nazis and Muslims FD?  Lets hear your thoughts, OK?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


FD won’t answer that, HB, but here’s a clue.

Ban them.
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Reply #1273 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 6:10pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:47am:
Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 2:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 11:29am:
freediver wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 8:53am:
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You appear to believe that Islam is a single, unified entity, Issuevoter.  In reality it isn't and what you're forgetting is that the overwhelming majority of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims, not non-Muslims.


How does that make it any better? You might as well complain that we criticise Nazis even though millions of them died in WWII.


Is this meant to mean something?  Naziism was united behind a single leader who directed the entire national will towards the conquest of Europe.   Islam has no single leader and it is not directed towards the conquest of anything in a single unified manner, FD. 




Er.... Mohammed??  Not a unifying leader figure for Muslims any longer?  His deeds are no longer instructive?



The German Chancellor is the equivalent of an 8th century prophet, eh?

You studied IS at the University of Balogney, eh?

What? Mohammmed is no longer a unifying figure for... er.... Mohammedans?

When did this happen?


After he died and his successors duked it out to see who'd be the new Caliph.  Forgotten the Sunni Shiite divide?    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

So the Sunnis and the Shites crap on Mohammed and are really only interested in his successors?

Good to see you are still out of your mind.

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Reply #1274 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:17am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:46pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
So you lot would become apologists for Nazism as soon as Nazis started disagreeing with each other?


Why don't you tell us for a change, what you'd do about Nazis and Muslims FD?  Lets hear your thoughts, OK?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


FD won’t answer that, HB, but here’s a clue.

Ban them.


No, I'd like to hear it directly from the donkey's Horse's arse mouth!
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