Soren wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:


Mohammed was dead.  The Muslims were interested in had the loot and who was going to rule them Soren.   

freediver wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 1:32pm:


Really?  Where?  I've seen a great deal of criticism of Muslims and Islam but no suggested solutions that would fix this issue, once and for all!  I wonder why?  Too hard perhaps?  Much easier to critcise a man who's been dead for 1400 years?   

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Well, I can't speak for Karnal but as far as I am concerned, I've offered pretty much zero as far as a solution goes.  I have been critical of you and your fellow Islamophobes for not giving Muslims a fair go though!  Your persecution is pretty extraordinary I think. 

Nazis by the way are scum.  I have no sympathy for them or their beliefs. 

freediver wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 1:32pm:


actually, The majority of Nazi's were normal people.  The majority of any large movement are normal people who subscribe to that movement for the personal benefit it brings to them, not any ideological superiority. law of averages.

Its always the minority banging on about their moral superiority who do the damage though.

If you transposed this conversation into the equivalent forum of an Arab country it would be FD, Sprint and Yadda telling us about the danger of the Christians, and how they bomb our countries and how we should fight them while us apologists would be explaining the fundamental similarities between Christianity and Islam, and how violence was not the answer.

Im happy being on my side of the fence(i get to annoy yadda and sprint  )

P.S Sprint- hows about that bet! it was your idea- Im keen, fruit up time!

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:


Nazism, Islam, Christianity - all the same?

Most nazis don't believe their ideology/religion is peaceful and tolerant and deeply personal spiritual journey.

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:11pm:


That reveals so much about your attitude towards people Soren.  Just so much.

No, what they said was, "OK, you've got the money, you want to rule us, tell us why we should believe what you say?"   

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 9:03pm:



Thats why when the war ended Germany pretty much went straight back to being a modern democracy-because the majority of the people   didnt give two sheets either way who was running the show-they just went on living their lives.

Same in all countries, same in all religions.
The majority just try to fit in with whoever is in power.
The people with power try to do all they can to maintain that power.

I personally don't believe Moslems have any exceptional strength of character or belief, they are just people.

The only one who state that all Moslems have a implacable irresistible will regarding the conquest of the non Islamic world are people like Moses.

I don't know how they impressed him so much, but to me they are just another large group of people, with all the nutcases and saints that your gonna get if you round up a large enough sample size.

P.s your caricature line was very pretty, but betrays a fundamental misinterpretation of my statement. then again that's pretty much your standard modus operandi

Soren wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:01pm:


I cede the point. I apologize for my misstatement.
What I should have said was that the majority of German citizens toed the Nazi line while hitler was in power, and that all Germans were considered nazi's by non-germans regardless of their personal political beliefs.
I was guilty of the mistake that I was accusing you off, that is identifying people as belonging to a particular group by association, without taking into account their personal beliefs. mea culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa!