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Reply #1395 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:14am

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 9:08am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Ah, so you think I should refrain from physically assaulting Muslims while posting on this forum to establish an alibi?

now you're being deliberately obtuse

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

So if ISIS for example continued to grow by slaughtering non-Muslims, you would tell us to mind our own business?

yes

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Muslims created ISIS John. Would you extend any of the responsibility to them?

rubbish. ISIS came about after western interference. Funny how many of the original leaders of ISIS were former Republican Guard officers. Imagine what would have happened if we didn't go into Iraq II

I'll make it even easier for you, FD.

The invasion of Iraq created ISIS as sure as night follows day.

How did Uncle establish democracy in Iraq?

Is there anything in John's post that you find troubling?

How did Uncle establish democracy in Iraq?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1396 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 11:44am Is the creation of something like ISIS only inevitable because of the Muslims involved? Or would you expect a similar response anywhere else in the world?
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Reply #1397 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 1:30pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 11:44am:

Is the creation of something like ISIS only inevitable because of the Muslims involved? Or would you expect a similar response anywhere else in the world?

You mean a militia formed to oust dictators and foreign forces?

Gee, FD, that's a hard one. You'd think Uncle would have learned from his time in Vietnam and Cambodia.

So how did Uncle establish democracy in Iraq?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1398 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:03pm ISIS didn't set itself up in Iraq until after American forces left and the Iraqi people were electing their own leaders. They would not have been able to. Do you agree with John that we should mind our own business and stop criticising ISIS, and that this will make them go away?
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Reply #1399 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 8:07pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

ISIS didn't set itself up in Iraq until after American forces left and the Iraqi people were electing their own leaders. They would not have been able to.

Do you agree with John that we should mind our own business and stop criticising ISIS, and that this will make them go away?

Do you agree with no one that Uncle established democracy in Iraq?

How?

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Reply #1400 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

ADF is an organization rife with sexual exploitation of women, men and children. Halal food is the least of their worries.

Exactly!

How come none of the rightards here protest against our ADF personnel buggering kids?

Only when you leftards protest against aboriginal elders raping aboriginals kids.

Really?

You won't condemn child abuse by ADF personnel until someone else condemns child abuse by another group?

You are a very, very special breed of maggot.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1401 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:43pm Whoops. We’ve lost him.again. Fair enough. FD has important evasion to expose.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1402 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:51pm Karnal when I asked you why my previous answer to your question was 'wrong', you evaded the question.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1403 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:07pm freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:51pm: Karnal when I asked you why my previous answer to your question was 'wrong', you evaded the question. I’m just curious, FD. How did Uncle establish democracy in Iraq? You didn’t give a previous answer.
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Reply #1404 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:09am

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Karnal when I asked you why my previous answer to your question was 'wrong', you evaded the question.

Ah yes, the list of elections, and the revelation that local council elections only came 2 years after Uncle left.

No one evaded explaining to why that isn't an answer FD - its very simple: a list of elections doesn't explain anything about how this was "establishing" democracy - especially after it had already been pointed out to you that these elections were nothing but a choice between occupation yes-men - as dictated by Uncle.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1405 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:11am Actually I suspect Karnal's problem was something to do with me using your words to explain how it was established. The elections were the outcome Gandalf. BTW, you never did explain which of the candidates were US stooges. Could you see your conspiracy ballooning to absurd proportions?
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Reply #1406 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:45am

freediver wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Actually I suspect Karnal's problem was something to do with me using your words to explain how it was established.

The elections were the outcome Gandalf.

Ee-gad, is that your answer? You’ve also disclosed that Saddam had erections. I wasn’t aware of that.

Does this mean Uncle replaced one democracy with another?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1407 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 10:07am Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:45am: You’ve also disclosed that Saddam had erections. Saddam's elections were the outcome... of democracy. Apparently.
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Reply #1408 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

I think he has settled on pedaling backwards....

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Was it you making that ludicrous argument for not mentioning Islam?

Not me.

So who is this then? The idiot Greg? Sorry if I have you two confused. How do I tell you apart?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

The best way to do that, is to ignore it.

Don't mention their silly religion.

Don't give them the satisfaction.

Direct all of your outrage at the individuals who committed the murders, not a silly set of beliefs.

That's just good advice, FD.

Do I need to explain the difference to you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

I've never advised people to refrain from mentioning Islam.

So, what direction would you like to take your butt-hurt now?

Another lie, perhaps?

It's your call.

It's up to you.

You can take my advice, or you can ignore it.

What's your decision, FD?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Is an attack that causes death worse than a graffiti attack, or an incinerated car? Absolutely.

Why do you ask, anyway?

Greg can't make up his mind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem?

No.

There's nothing contrary in those two quotes.

Bomb blasts are worse than graffiti attacks.

And, in the stats I provided, they are all classified as terrorism.

Moreover, all terrorism is a problem.

Try to focus.

I'm consistent and, I'm 100% correct.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1409 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:13am just as well you're not keeping tabs FD.
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