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Reply #1425 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 2:24pm

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As long as they are not violent, they are members of that "peaceful majority".

I wonder how you classify people who have committed no violence as "violent".

People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

Fundamentalist muslims who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of islam are (spiritually) the highest grade of muslim.

These muslims justify their perversions by quoting the commands of allah, the teachings of muhammad, the verses in the qur'an as their sole cause and motivation.

muslims who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the islamic commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate muslims to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

If muslims support the cause and motivation of islamic violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95911 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1426 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 3:25pm That’s an answer, FD. Like that one?
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Reply #1427 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:23pm

moses wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

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As long as they are not violent, they are members of that "peaceful majority".

I wonder how you classify people who have committed no violence as "violent".

People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

Fundamentalist muslims who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of islam are (spiritually) the highest grade of muslim.

These muslims justify their perversions by quoting the commands of allah, the teachings of muhammad, the verses in the qur'an as their sole cause and motivation.

muslims who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the islamic commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate muslims to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

If muslims support the cause and motivation of islamic violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

Fundamentalist Christians who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of Christianity are (spiritually) the highest grade of Christian.

These Christians justify their perversions by quoting the commands of Yahweh, the teachings of his Prophets, the verses in the Bible as their sole cause and motivation.

Christians who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the Christian commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate Christians to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

If Christians support the cause and motivation of Christian violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

Amazing isn't it, just changing the pronouns and names can really prove the definition, now can't it? Roll Eyes

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1428 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:55pm Karnal wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 3:25pm: That’s an answer, FD. Like that one? Moses actually answers questions directly. You have to give him credit for that.
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Reply #1429 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 5:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:23pm:

moses wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

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As long as they are not violent, they are members of that "peaceful majority".

I wonder how you classify people who have committed no violence as "violent".

People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

Fundamentalist muslims who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of islam are (spiritually) the highest grade of muslim.

These muslims justify their perversions by quoting the commands of allah, the teachings of muhammad, the verses in the qur'an as their sole cause and motivation.

muslims who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the islamic commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate muslims to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

If muslims support the cause and motivation of islamic violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

Fundamentalist Christians who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of Christianity are (spiritually) the highest grade of Christian.

These Christians justify their perversions by quoting the commands of Yahweh, the teachings of his Prophets, the verses in the Bible as their sole cause and motivation.

Christians who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the Christian commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate Christians to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

If Christians support the cause and motivation of Christian violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

Amazing isn't it, just changing the pronouns and names can really prove the definition, now can't it? Roll Eyes

Do you honestly think that the words and deeds of Jesus are not significantly different from those of Muhammed in terms of support for violence? Or are you just demonstrating you capacity for getting it wrong?

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Reply #1430 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 5:58pm

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People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package.

True

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Fundamentalist Christians who commit the actual atrocities as outlined in the tenets of Christianity are (spiritually) the highest grade of Christian.

As there are no teachings from Christ which outline atrocities as a spiritual path\, this statement is false

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These Christians justify their perversions by quoting the commands of Yahweh, the teachings of his Prophets, the verses in the Bible as their sole cause and motivation.

Another falsehood as the below verses state:

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

As they imply that the law etc. had a definite time line (ceased 2016 years ago), plus Christians were told 2016 years ago that they now are justified by faith.

Being honest seems to be your stumbling block doesn't it?

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Christians who sneakily claim to be moderate, also state unequivocally that the Christian commands, teachings and verses which cause and motivate Christians to commit their foul deeds, are absolutely immutable perfect and can never be changed.

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If Christians support the cause and motivation of Christian violence and human rights atrocities, they also support the actual inhumane deed

If you cannot show the commands and teachings of Christ which motivate Christians to commit human rights atrocities, I take it you're lying again

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Amazing isn't it, just changing the pronouns and names can really prove the definition, now can't it?

Depends whether you're lying or not.

A truthful answer gives the correct definition, lies are just that, lies to suit a fallacious position.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1431 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:06pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:23pm: People who support and urge violence, are part and part and parcel of the total violence package. Brian would you consider Gandalf's support for the slaughter of innocent Jews to be part and parcel of the total violence package?
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Reply #1432 - Jun 1^st, 2016 at 10:33pm

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Do you honestly think that the words and deeds of Jesus are not significantly different from those of Muhammed in terms of support for violence? Or are you just demonstrating you capacity for getting it wrong?

FD, perhaps you need to learn that Christianity, like Islam is far more than just the words of their founders? Roll Eyes

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Reply #1433 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:14am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 3:25pm:

That’s an answer, FD.

Like that one?

Moses actually answers questions directly. You have to give him credit for that.

True. Moses hasn’t changed the answer since he came here. Every post is the same.

You could learn from Moses, FD. Why don’t you just make up a standard answer to all those tricky questions?

Porkies?

The stench of putrification coming from the Muselman’s so-called "holy" book.

Freeeedom?

The degenerate inbred retardation of the Muselman and his tribe.

Ever been to a Muslim country?

Each one shall return to hell from whence he came. Etc, etc, etc.

It could save valuable time for evasion, no?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1434 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:19am

moses wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 5:58pm: