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Reply #1470 - Jun 5^th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Brian Ross wrote Reply #1468 - Yesterday at 4:36pm

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Yet many Christians disagree with your viewpoint, Moses. Does that make them lesser in their faith?

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Ah, so the Pope is not a "genuine Christian", Moses?

My, how interesting...

The doctrine of Christ is the sole adjudicator as to who / what constitutes a Christian.

If people disagree and step outside His guidelines, then as stated in Matthew 7:21 7:22 7:23 they are not recognized by Him.

The same goes for the pope if he has falsely preached as the doctrine, commandments of man (which deviate from Christs teachings), then as Mathew 15:9 and Mark 7:7 state he will not be accepted.

Leaders of churches have made some evil **commandments of man** in the past, the inquisition and burning of people at the stake springs immediately to mind.

There is nothing that I can find in the Words of Christ, which in any way shape or form, would accept these commands and deeds as righteous.

So it seems (despite your disingenuous attempts) we are back where we started: Genuine islamic tenets urge cause and motivate human rights atrocities of the foulest kind.

Genuine Christian doctrine does not cause or motivate human rights atrocities.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1471 - Jun 5^th, 2016 at 3:39pm When Brian discusses religions like Islam and Christianity, he likes to completely avoid discussing the words and deeds of Muhammed and Jesus.
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Reply #1472 - Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

Bruce Baines wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Just watching the Drum on the ABC....the SJWs are outraged that the PM called this attack an attack on everyone, and did not single out gays for special victim status. Needless to say his office has since issued a clarification highlighting the special victim status of gays. Roll Eyes

Muslims have been slaughtering Christians in the Middle East and Africa for a hell of a long time.

Yet the words hate crime only come out when the victims are homosexuals?

And they had every right to. WTF were Christians doing there in the Land of Arabs in the first place.

We keep making the same mistake, over and over.

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Reply #1473 - Jun 14^th, 2016 at 12:06am

freediver wrote on Jun 5^th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

When Brian discusses religions like Islam and Christianity, he likes to completely avoid discussing the words and deeds of Muhammed and Jesus.

Perhaps because I like to discuss the religion which is far more than just the words and deeds of Christ and Muhammed, FD. You know, the 2,000+ years for Christianity and the 1.400+ years for Islam. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1474 - Jun 14^th, 2016 at 12:55pm If a Christian eats corn flakes for breakfast, do cornflakes become part of Christianity?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41951	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1475 - Jun 14^th, 2016 at 4:50pm freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2016 at 12:55pm: If a Christian eats corn flakes for breakfast, do cornflakes become part of Christianity? John Harvey Kellogg. creator of Corn Flakes was a committed Christian, FD...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1476 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 12:28pm So that's a yes? Corn flakes are part of Christianity? How about weetbix? What is their religion?
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Reply #1477 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 1:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

So that's a yes? Corn flakes are part of Christianity?

How about weetbix? What is their religion?

What don't you understand about "John Harvey Kellogg. creator of Corn Flakes was a committed Christian," FD? Roll Eyes

Corn Flakes were created by a Christian to further his Christian ideals and beliefs. They are not a part of the official beliefs in Christianity but they were designed to bolster it, in the view of John Harvey Kellogg.

Tell me, FD, does Vegetarianism bolster the belief in Hinduism? Roll Eyes

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95921 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1478 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:01pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 12:28pm: So that's a yes? Corn flakes are part of Christianity? How about weetbix? What is their religion? Weetbix are Seventh Day Adventists, FD. Their producer, Sanitarium, is owned by this church.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1479 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 4:30pm Kinda stepped into that one FD, if you don't mind me saying.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18529 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1480 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 4:35pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Kinda stepped into that one FD, if you don't mind me saying. I am confused, are corn flakes and weetbix a part of Christianity, I suspect weetbix might be halal
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1481 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 8:05pm OK, so cornflakes are Christian. Weetbix are SDA. What about slaughtering 50 people in a gay bar in Florida. What religion is that?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38770 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1482 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 8:09pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 8:05pm: OK, so cornflakes are Christian. Weetbix are SDA. What about slaughtering 50 people in a gay bar in Florida. What religion is that? Sir! Sir!
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41951	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1483 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 10:12pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 8:05pm: OK, so cornflakes are Christian. Weetbix are SDA. What about slaughtering 50 people in a gay bar in Florida. What religion is that? Homophobia?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1484 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 6:18pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 10:12pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 8:05pm: OK, so cornflakes are Christian. Weetbix are SDA. What about slaughtering 50 people in a gay bar in Florida. What religion is that? Homophobia? Ah. So nothing to do with Islam then?
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