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Reply #1830 - Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:00pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
The existence of peaceful moderate assimilated Muslims doesn't negate the existence of aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds. 


There are ~1.6 billion Muslims in the world today.  How many of them are, "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds?"   Don't you think instead of merely attacking Muslims, you should perhaps show who you're actually talking about?  No one here does.  I wonder why?  Could it be because of Islamophobia?  Much easier to just type, "Muslims" than "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds," isn't it?  When you're asked whether you mean just "Muslims" or "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds,"  people like you get upset about it for some reason.   Perhaps the problem is you don't like your Islamophobia being exposed for what it is?   Roll Eyes

What is also interesting is that you invariably suggest that those who ask you the question whether or not you mean all "Muslims", are "apologetics" for wanting to clarify if you suffer from Islamophobia or not.

Tsk, tsk.  Perhaps Soren could help?  Afterall, he's a trick-cyclist by trade, supposedly.  Problem is, he appears more in need of that profession than anyone else here.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1831 - Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
The existence of peaceful moderate assimilated Muslims doesn't negate the existence of aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds. 


There are ~1.6 billion Muslims in the world today.  How many of them are, "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds?"   Don't you think instead of merely attacking Muslims, you should perhaps show who you're actually talking about?  No one here does.  I wonder why?  Could it be because of Islamophobia?  Much easier to just type, "Muslims" than "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds," isn't it?  When you're asked whether you mean just "Muslims" or "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds,"  people like you get upset about it for some reason.   Perhaps the problem is you don't like your Islamophobia being exposed for what it is?   Roll Eyes

What is also interesting is that you invariably suggest that those who ask you the question whether or not you mean all "Muslims", are "apologetics" for wanting to clarify if you suffer from Islamophobia or not.

Tsk, tsk.  Perhaps Soren could help?  Afterall, he's a trick-cyclist by trade, supposedly.  Problem is, he appears more in need of that profession than anyone else here.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Every time we mention the surveys that show how many millions of Muslims from around the world hold absurdly backwards and dangerous beliefs, you run away. But then you come back and sprout this nonsense again.

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 4:55pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
LOL! Your inability to criticise is an apologist warp drive, only engaged when it involves Muslims.   Grin Grin Grin Grin



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Silence means nothing except silence.  When I feel the need to comment, I comment. 


Heheh, Brian, I ain't the clown who declared in a high manner that they had no right or ability to criticise other religions or countries. That stupid  statement is yours alone and a good example of your expedient idiocy.

And it is a matter of fact that you don't adhere to your own lofty proclamation, so hypocritical is justified and totally accurate.   Your declaration was nothing other than an apologist warp drive to avoid criticising Islam. 


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I made my statement.  I stand by that statement.  I have never denied it.   Make what you like of it.  I know what I meant, even if you and FD don't (deliberately) understand the sentiment behind it.

Tell me, do you get a bee in your bonnet when Muslims make some fatuous comment about Christians and Christianity?  Why can't Muslims get upset?  Oh, that's right they're Muslims without any rights, right?

Get back to your Old Testament.  Justify your religion's excesses.   Disgusting.   Roll Eyes


You deny it all the time Brian. You say you are misunderstood, but you are not willing to say what you really mean. You run away from your own words. Understandably, given how idiotic they are.

How can it even make sense that you lack the right and ability to criticise other nations and religions? You do it all the time. You are just very selective.


Unable to quote anything back, FD?  Gee, could it be because there is nothing to quote back which makes me an apologist for Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are an apologist for your own spineless apologetics Brian. Run away. Or even better, post some more gibberish.


Can you explain why you think you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries Brian?

Can you also explain how you hold this view at the same time as citicising non-Muslim religions and countries?
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Reply #1832 - Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
The existence of peaceful moderate assimilated Muslims doesn't negate the existence of aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds. 


There are ~1.6 billion Muslims in the world today.  How many of them are, "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds?"   Don't you think instead of merely attacking Muslims, you should perhaps show who you're actually talking about?  No one here does.  I wonder why?  Could it be because of Islamophobia?  Much easier to just type, "Muslims" than "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds," isn't it?  When you're asked whether you mean just "Muslims" or "aggressive unassimilated intolerant Muslims driving trucks into crowds,"  people like you get upset about it for some reason.   Perhaps the problem is you don't like your Islamophobia being exposed for what it is?   Roll Eyes

What is also interesting is that you invariably suggest that those who ask you the question whether or not you mean all "Muslims", are "apologetics" for wanting to clarify if you suffer from Islamophobia or not.

Tsk, tsk.  Perhaps Soren could help?  Afterall, he's a trick-cyclist by trade, supposedly.  Problem is, he appears more in need of that profession than anyone else here.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Every time we mention the surveys that show how many millions of Muslims from around the world hold absurdly backwards and dangerous beliefs, you run away. But then you come back and sprout this nonsense again.

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


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Yeah, yeah, sure, FD.  You believe what you like.  Nothing that I say will change your views.  Something changed them though, didn't it?   Afterall, you were once a great supporter of Muslims and wrote extensively against their persecution.   What was it, FD?   Got bored one day and decided to create some controversy?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Your stats aren't wrong.  "Millions" are not ALL Muslims, now are they?   When you get back to us with proof all Muslims represent a threat to democracy, I might listen to you.  Roll Eyes


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Reply #1833 - Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm
 
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.
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Reply #1834 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1835 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
   Perhaps the problem is you don't like your Islamophobia being exposed for what it is?   Roll Eyes

What is also interesting is that you invariably suggest that those who ask you the question whether or not you mean all "Muslims", are "apologetics" for wanting to clarify if you suffer from Islamophobia or not.

Tsk, tsk.  Perhaps Soren could help?  Afterall, he's a trick-cyclist by trade, supposedly.  Problem is, he appears more in need of that profession than anyone else here.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes




Yeah - what IS Islamophobia?

Why is there no, say, 'Sikhophobia'? They look funny too, dress silly and have silly beliefs.

But there is a huge difference between Muslims and Sikhs, causing the former to be suspected/hated/feared/in the news all thee time while the latter is barely noticed (even though they, too, come from a country partitioned by the British).


Can you guess the reason, Brian? Clue - it;s to do with how they conduct themselves.

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Reply #1836 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:40pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
You know, I always find it interesting what you believe Islam teaches it's followers, Soren. 



We know them by what THEY do and say, Brian, not what YOU say.

It hurts your fake-doctor ego, like so many other things, but that's the long and the short of it - we judge Muslims by their own actions not your spineless, halfwitted apologetics.


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Reply #1837 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:35pm
 
An apologist for islamic terrorism wrote Reply #1827 - Yesterday at 4:44pm

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I'm sure that will be news to all the peaceful, moderate, assimilated Muslims around the world, Moses.


Every muslim who believes that the verses in the qur'an which direct, urge, motivate and cause islamic terrorism, are infallible and can never be changed, supports the engendered terrorism. (that's why your so called peaceful, moderate, assimilated Muslims all feign innocence whenever one of their fellow muslims commits an act of terror) 

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And how man of those thousands who have died had anything to with the Seleka, Moses?


All of the ones that believe, as I stated above, the cause and  motivation of islamic terrorism is infallible and can never be changed.

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Ah, so we see "unprecedented deprevity" occurring in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc., Moses?  Tsk, tsk, exaggeration as usual.  Islamophobe


Yes, the depravity displayed by muslims who have actually carried out their religious slaughter duties, plus the degenerate intentions of the muslims that have been caught before they could fulfil their spiritual fantasies of mass slaughter, can only be depicted as unprecedented depravity by muslims.

It is a worldwide phenomenon, muslims following the qur'an to the letter and committing the most heinous crimes against humanity, all because their revamped moon god allah consecrated these deeds as the higher true path for muslims.

Unprecedented depravity by muslims right around the globe, right now, the 21st century.
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Reply #1838 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522
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Reply #1839 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522


Something more recent, FD.   2013 was quite a while ago...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1840 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522


Something more recent, FD.   2013 was quite a while ago...   Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

Tell us, how has muslim religious doctrine and muslim opinion changed since 2013? Have they revised mohammed of the 8th century since 2013?


Why are you so toe curlingly stupid, Brian? Was it your mamma who gave you the stupid complex,  or compulsive onanism, some other early psychic trauma? What? Your online fake doctorate points to all of these, with a narcissistic compulson to self-validate in public. There are all sorts of retentive, repressive clues here, Brian. 
You need to talk to somone, Brian. Just not us, please.
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Reply #1841 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522


Something more recent, FD.   2013 was quite a while ago...   Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Look who just blew in.  Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again?  Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1842 - Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:40pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522


Something more recent, FD.   2013 was quite a while ago...   Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Look who just blew in.  Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again?  Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us, how has muslim religious doctrine and muslim opinion changed since 2013? Have they revised mohammed of the 8th century since 2013?


Why are you so toe curlingly stupid, Brian? Was it your mamma who gave you the stupid complex,  or compulsive onanism, some other early psychic trauma? What? Your online fake doctorate points to all of these, with a narcissistic compulson to self-validate in public. There are all sorts of retentive, repressive clues here, Brian. 

I ca hear your one hand fapping across the continent, Brian. Stop.
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Reply #1843 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:26am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.


Really?  Evidence, please, FD.  A link will do...   Roll Eyes


I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522


Something more recent, FD.   2013 was quite a while ago...   Roll Eyes


I was going to copy this to the spineless apologetics thread. But you saved me the effort. Thanks Brian. How often do we need to do global surveys of the opinions of Muslims for you to believe it is what they really think? I suppose it's being going for 1400 years or so.
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Reply #1844 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:26am:
I was going to copy this to the spineless apologetics thread. But you saved me the effort.


Ah.
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