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Reply #1845 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:32pm

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Perhaps the problem is you don't like your Islamophobia being exposed for what it is? Roll Eyes

What is also interesting is that you invariably suggest that those who ask you the question whether or not you mean all "Muslims", are "apologetics" for wanting to clarify if you suffer from Islamophobia or not.

Tsk, tsk. Perhaps Soren could help? Afterall, he's a trick-cyclist by trade, supposedly. Problem is, he appears more in need of that profession than anyone else here. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Yeah - what IS Islamophobia?

An irrational fear of people who are Muslim, Soren. Surely you know what you suffer from, don't you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Why is there no, say, 'Sikhophobia'? They look funny too, dress silly and have silly beliefs.

Talk to the people who keep mistaking them for Muslims, Soren. Perhaps they can tell you why they fear people who wear beards, turbans and have strange and different beliefs to them. Why do you fear them? Roll Eyes

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But there is a huge difference between Muslims and Sikhs, causing the former to be suspected/hated/feared/in the news all thee time while the latter is barely noticed (even though they, too, come from a country partitioned by the British).

Never known any Sikhs, have you Soren? Punjabi separatism was and still is a very topical issue with them. Don't forget who killed Indira Gandhi...

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Can you guess the reason, Brian? Clue - it;s to do with how they conduct themselves.

Most Sikhs conduct themselves very well, I agree. Most Muslims do as well. However, to you, Muslims appear to represent the very epitome of evil for some strange reason.

I'll ask you again, Soren, how many Muslims do you actually know well enough to talk to them about their religious beliefs with? Indeed, how many Muslims do you know at all? Any? Roll Eyes

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Reply #1846 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:34pm

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Look who just blew in. Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again? Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we? Roll Eyes

Tell us, how has muslim religious doctrine and muslim opinion changed since 2013? Have they revised mohammed of the 8th century since 2013?

Why are you so toe curlingly stupid, Brian? Was it your mamma who gave you the stupid complex, or compulsive onanism, some other early psychic trauma? What? Your online fake doctorate points to all of these, with a narcissistic compulson to self-validate in public. There are all sorts of retentive, repressive clues here, Brian.

I ca hear your one hand fapping across the continent, Brian. Stop.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here folks, just Soren's usual mindless ad hominem attacks when he's encountered a difficult matter that questions his beliefs. Tsk, tsk, I have no idea why he bothers, I really don't. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1847 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:35pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:15pm: freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:26am: I was going to copy this to the spineless apologetics thread. But you saved me the effort. Ah. Yes. Tsk, tsk.
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Reply #1848 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:37pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

I was going to copy this to the spineless apologetics thread. But you saved me the effort. Thanks Brian. How often do we need to do global surveys of the opinions of Muslims for you to believe it is what they really think? I suppose it's being going for 1400 years or so.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. FD, looks like you need to find some kids to bully. Well, off you go. Have fun. You've wasted enough of my time. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #1849 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:49pm Brian do you have an opinion on the survey result, other than observing the year? Do you spinelessly apologise for the millions of Muslims holding these backwards, dangerous views? Can you bring yourself to criticise them, or do you somehow lack the right and the ability?
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Reply #1850 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:02pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:49pm:

Brian do you have an opinion on the survey result, other than observing the year? Do you spinelessly apologise for the millions of Muslims holding these backwards, dangerous views? Can you bring yourself to criticise them, or do you somehow lack the right and the ability?

Freediver, unlike you, I don't try and judge people at every opportunity. When you attempt to understand why people hold opinions different to your own, you might start to realise that it isn't all the fault of the religion they follow.

Something starting with an "E" might give you a clue. Not everybody gets a good one and those that get any of one, often are taught bad things. Tell me, what do you think of the message that this man taught his followers?

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Reply #1851 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

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Reply #1852 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1853 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you need to know any Scientologists in order to form a judgement on Scientology, Brian? Marxists, fascists, nazis, pedophiles, mass murderers, racists, sexists - have you discussed all these things with a requisite number of devotees, Brian?

How did you get to be so stupid, conceited and lacking in any semblance of self-awareness?

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Reply #1854 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Look who just blew in. Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again? Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we? Roll Eyes

Tell us, how has muslim religious doctrine and muslim opinion changed since 2013? Have they revised mohammed of the 8th century since 2013?

Why are you so toe curlingly stupid, Brian? Was it your mamma who gave you the stupid complex, or compulsive onanism, some other early psychic trauma? What? Your online fake doctorate points to all of these, with a narcissistic compulson to self-validate in public. There are all sorts of retentive, repressive clues here, Brian.

I ca hear your one hand fapping across the continent, Brian. Stop.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here folks, just Soren's usual mindless ad hominem attacks when he's encountered a difficult matter that questions his beliefs. Tsk, tsk, I have no idea why he bothers, I really don't. Roll Eyes

You can't wank your way out of this corner, doktor one hand fapping.

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Reply #1855 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

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Reply #1856 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:09pm

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you need to know any Scientologists in order to form a judgement on Scientology, Brian? Marxists, fascists, nazis, pedophiles, mass murderers, racists, sexists - have you discussed all these things with a requisite number of devotees, Brian?

How did you get to be so stupid, conceited and lacking in any semblance of self-awareness?

Answer the question, Soren. How many Muslims do you know personally? How many? A number please. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1857 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:11pm

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Look who just blew in. Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again? Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we? Roll Eyes

Tell us, how has muslim religious doctrine and muslim opinion changed since 2013? Have they revised mohammed of the 8th century since 2013?

Why are you so toe curlingly stupid, Brian? Was it your mamma who gave you the stupid complex, or compulsive onanism, some other early psychic trauma? What? Your online fake doctorate points to all of these, with a narcissistic compulson to self-validate in public. There are all sorts of retentive, repressive clues here, Brian.

I ca hear your one hand fapping across the continent, Brian. Stop.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here folks, just Soren's usual mindless ad hominem attacks when he's encountered a difficult matter that questions his beliefs. Tsk, tsk, I have no idea why he bothers, I really don't. Roll Eyes

You can't wank your way out of this corner, doktor one hand fapping.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. More ad hominem argument, Soren? Really? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1858 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:12pm

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

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