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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1860 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

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Reply #1861 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

What muslim doctrine has changed since 2013? None. Which doctrine was rejected since then? None.
You have absolutely no evidence, factual or otherwise, that their views have changed.

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1862 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Do you think their views have changed significantly, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1863 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

What muslim doctrine has changed since 2013? None. Which doctrine was rejected since then? None.
You have absolutely no evidence, factual or otherwise, that their views have changed.

And you have absolutely no evidence to support your viewpoint, either, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1864 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Do you think their views have changed significantly, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

Answer the question, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1865 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Do you think their views have changed significantly, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

Answer the question, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Stop Muslim terrorism, Brian.

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Reply #1866 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

What muslim doctrine has changed since 2013? None. Which doctrine was rejected since then? None.
You have absolutely no evidence, factual or otherwise, that their views have changed.

And you have absolutely no evidence to support your viewpoint, either, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Stop Muslim terrorism, Brian.

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1867 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:28pm

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

You judge people constantly. The vast majority doing what you consider acceptable. The tiny minority doing what you consider unacceptable. All the unacceptable criticism of Islam and Muslims.

But presented with a survey showing what Muslims actually think, you suddenly realise you have no right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries. Why is that Brian?

Are you saying Muslims are bad because they get an Islamic education, but this has nothing to do with Islam?

Do you have the right or ability to criticise other religions and other countries?

You know, what I find interesting is your drive to display your Islamophobia all the time, FD. You seem to take real pride in showing how little you know or understand about ordinary people, let alone Muslims. Tsk, tsk. What you think about Islam and Muslims impresses no one, other than the fools who are as ignorant and foolish as yourself. Roll Eyes

Here's my standard question for you, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Any at all?

Do you think the Pew survey captures the views of ordinary Muslims? Or do you know better, because you have 'Muslim friends' who refrain from chopping your head off?

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

What muslim doctrine has changed since 2013? None. Which doctrine was rejected since then? None.
You have absolutely no evidence, factual or otherwise, that their views have changed.

And you have absolutely no evidence to support your viewpoint, either, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Stop Muslim terrorism, Brian.

Sure. I suspect you wouldn't like my methods though... Roll Eyes

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Reply #1868 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:28pm

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Do you think their views have changed significantly, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

Answer the question, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Stop Muslim terrorism, Brian.

Answer the question, Soren. How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #1869 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Look who just blew in. Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again? Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we? Roll Eyes

Not teaching hate and beheading and seething murder for 2017 years and counting. Can't say the same for Islam which has been teaching hate and beheadings and murder for 1400 years.

Who are you going to side with? (not asking you, Brian, you are obviously for murder and cruelty, being a friend of Mohammed).

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Reply #1870 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

I don't doubt that it captures the views of Muslims in 2013. Views however change over time. How about their views in 2017, FD? Mmmm? Then we can track them over time, now can't we? Roll Eyes

What muslim doctrine has changed since 2013? None. Which doctrine was rejected since then? None.
You have absolutely no evidence, factual or otherwise, that their views have changed.

And you have absolutely no evidence to support your viewpoint, either, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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You complete, utter m0ron, you!!! You make a wild assertion - highlighted - and when challenged to support your baseless stupidity, you demand evidence for CHALLENGING your baseless stupidity!!!

You are stupid beyond belief, Brian. You are STUPID incarnate. You are the doctor of Divine Stupidity. You are the eternal, Platonic form of STUPID.

Guinness World Record stuff, Brian.

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Reply #1871 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:53pm

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

They are the majority though, in the most populous Muslim nation, right on our doorstep.

Really? Evidence, please, FD. A link will do... Roll Eyes

I bumped the thread for you Brian:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522

Something more recent, FD. 2013 was quite a while ago... Roll Eyes

Not to mention anything 1400 years ago....

If 2013 is old hat, how frikken out of date is adhering to mohammed of the 8th century, doctor silly old ponce?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Look who just blew in. Tsk, tsk, did someone leave the door open again? Lets not talk about Christians who believe in Jesus who is 2,017 years old, now shall we? Roll Eyes

Not teaching hate and beheading and seething murder for 2017 years and counting. Can't say the same for Islam which has been teaching hate and beheadings and murder for 1400 years.

Gee, I wonder what the indigenous folk of Oceania, Africa, Asia and the New World think about that, Soren.

Sorry, they disagree with you. Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history yet again. Roll Eyes

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Who are you going to side with? (not asking you, Brian, you are obviously for murder and cruelty, being a friend of Mohammed).

Well we know who you side with, Soren, don't we? Those "peaceful" Christians who created the genocides around the world, right? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1872 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 11:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

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Gee, I wonder what the indigenous folk of Oceania, Africa, Asia and the New World think about that, Soren.

Sorry, they disagree with you. Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history yet again. Roll Eyes

What DO they think, Big Thick? Disagreeing is not tripping up, eyerolling little Big Thick. Tell us, what DO the indigenous folk think? You seem to know everything, Big Thick, so tell us. They want you to speak fo them Big Thick, so go ahead, speak for them.

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Reply #1873 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 11:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

Well we know who you side with, Soren, don't we? Those "peaceful" Christians who created the genocides around the world, right? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What genocides, Big Thick?

Mao? Pol Pot? Rwanda? Burma? Africans selling Africans into slavery?

There has never been a genocide in the name of Christianity, supported by Christian ideas or justified by Christian doctrine or teaching. It is inconceivable that anyone could take Jesus, his deeds and words and thereby justify genocide. Impossible.

(Mohammed, to think of a random alternative religious figure, is THE poster boy for religiously motivated genocide or simple mass murder)

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Reply #1874 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 8:41am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

So you think you know better than the survey?

I believe the survey is old and out of date, FD.

How about their views, today? What are they?

How about you answer my question. I've answered yours, multiple times but you rarely answer any questions put to you.

How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

Do you think their views have changed significantly, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

Answer the question, FD. How many Muslims do you know personally? Roll Eyes

I don't know Brian. I only know the religious views of a fraction of the people I know.

Do you think the views of Muslims from around the world have changed significantly since the Pew survey, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

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