freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 8:41am:


So, you finally admit that you don't any Muslims?  Yet you feel qualified to comment on their religious beliefs without questioning any Muslims directly, FD?   Tsk, tsk.   

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:


No Brian. It was a pretty simple statement. Not sure how you managed to misunderstand that one.

Do you think the views of Muslims from around the world have changed significantly since the Pew survey, or are you just looking for any excuse not to acknowledge the results?

Why do you have no right or ability to criticise other nations or religions?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Soooo... no genocide in the name of Jesus,  then.

moses wrote on Sep 17^th, 2017 at 11:41am:


Ah, you missed that that was only about one area and it was a note of contention, Moses.

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There have been estimates as high as 20 million for all of Latin and Southern America, Moses.   I remember reading all about it back in the 1980s when I studied the Spanish Conquistadori.

The Spanish were of course fuelled by their Christianity and their conquests were even ok'ed by the Church.  Do I need to remind you of the Requirement of 1513 (Requerimiento)?   

Frank wrote on Sep 17^th, 2017 at 2:02pm:




Still unwilling to answer the question, hey, Soren?  "How many Muslims do you know?"

How unsurprising considering you are really suffering from a mental illness - Islamophobia - an unreasoning fear of Muslims and Islam.   Tsk, tsk, I suppose I should take pity on you.   However, I won't while you continue to spread your hatred and fear of Muslims and Islam everywhere.   

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Answered it already, Big Thick.



How many slave traders do you know? SS henchmen? Pop Potistas? How many active paediphiles and convicted rapists do you know, Brian? How many concentration camp guards, polygamists, wife beaters, kitten torchurers,  Brian? You must never form any opinions about them until you know at least as many of them as you know Muslims, big thick.

Same goes for the actions of ptime ministers, ministers, presidents, popes etc- until you know many such peronally, you should shut up about what they do or think.

If stupidity was treasured you would be the Koh-i-Noor of stupid.  You are off the Eyewateringly Cretinous Scale, Big Thick.

Brian Ross wrote:Reply #1882 - Yesterday at 2:59pm

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Now I know that lefties will try and rewrite history to portray the evil white christian as the root of all evil.

However your own source clearly states:

Though the Spaniards did not set out to exterminate the indigenous peoples, believing their numbers to be inexhaustible, their actions led to the annihilation of entire tribes such as the Arawak.[33] In the 1760s, an expedition despatched to fortify California, led by Gaspar de Portolà and Junípero Serra, was marked by slavery, forced conversions and genocide through the introduction of disease.[34]

The Spanish did  not set out to exterminate people, the indigenous people died from a lack of immunity to exotic diseases the Spanish carried. (it's part and parcel of life today 2107, travelers carry diseases to their intended destinations, we are all aware of it now, they had no such knowledge in the days of the Spanish Conquistadori.


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Your link says:
The Spanish Requirement of 1513 (Requerimiento) was a declaration by the Spanish monarchy, written by the Council of Castile jurist Juan López de Palacios Rubios, of Castile's divinely ordained right to take possession of the territories of the New World and to subjugate, exploit and, when necessary, to fight the native inhabitants.

The Requerimiento (Spanish for "requirement" as in "demand") was read in Castilian[citation needed] to Native Americans to inform them of Spain’s rights to conquest. [1] Those who subsequently resisted conquest were considered to harbor evil intentions.[citation needed] The Spaniards thus considered those who resisted as defying God’s plan, and so used Catholic theology to justify their conquest. [1]

A declaration of the Spanish Monarchy? Catholic theology?

Man made jurisprudences which have no basis in the teachings of Christ.

There have been many instances of men committing evil deeds in the name of Christianity however the sticking point about such deeds, always was and always will be, do they fit the criteria of the the doctrine of Christ?

Invariably these iniquities always fall well outside of what Jesus taught his followers.

So two points:

1/. There was no genocide, people died as they lacked immunity to introduced diseases.

2/. The deeds of the Spanish Conquistador were at the behest of men who made their own rules and regulations, which were 100% at odds with the teachings of Christ, as such they are not acts of Christianity.

I know you are trying to excuse islamic atrocities which are urged in the qur'an as the divine path for muslims, however no matter how much you twist and turn, the simple facts are:

1/.Men who commit atrocities are defying the words of Christ.

2/. muslims who commit atrocities are obeying the teachings of muhammad and the verses in the qur'an.