freediver wrote on Oct 20
th, 2013 at 7:31pm:
Quote:I've made my explanations
You repeated what you said very selectively, leaving out the worst.
No, I explained what I had said, FD.
Quote:At least that is a good sign because it means you recognise why your views are regarded as so spineless. But it is hardly an explanation. It leaves more questions that answers. You have stated that you stand by what you said and that you meant exactly what you said, but at the same time you are pretending you said something completely different and backpedaling as fast as you can.
Back-pedalling? Really? Like all the other things you claim, you have a strange definition there.
Quote:I haven't ignored it. I have made my explanations. You refuse to accept them and keep posting and reposting the same stuff. You do know what the definition of insanity is, don't you, FD? "Repeating the same experiment, time after time, expecting different results than those obtained everytime before." You're doing exactly that!
I am not expecting anything different from you Brian. I do not expect you you change. I expect you to reinforce what you already posted.
It doesn't need reinforcement. It is perfectly adequate as it stands.
Quote: Quote:No, FD, you are criticising me, describing me as a "spineless apologetic".
So now you think we should not be allowed to criticise the spineless things you say because you will take it personally? What criticism would you allow?
You can criticise what I say, how you like, FD but attacks on me personally demean you and no one else.
Quote: Quote:Some people already belief that. You, yourself are one step away from it in your continued condemnation of all Muslims, FD. I wouldn't defend the Nazis "right" to gas Jews anymore would I defend your right to gas Muslims.
So how is that different from what you posted here? Would it be OK if they merely chopped their heads off? Is it OK to kill atheists but not Jews?
If you cannot perceive the difference then you definitely need your moral compass fixed, FD.
Persecution of innocents is wrong, FD. Doesn't matter what their religion is. Nazis hated Jews. You hate Muslims. How does that make you superior to the Nazis?
Quote:Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15
th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
Quote:Is this the Islam you are so keen to defend with your "fair deal" nonsense, what about those who no longer believe in that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit do they deserve a fair deal like article 18 of the Universal declaration of human rights?
Quote: I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV. I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise I have no right or ability to criticise them. I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.
See what I mean about repeating the same experiment and expecting different results, FD?
Brian, you are yet to explain why you have no right or even ability to criticise people from other religions or nations. You are yet to explain why it is their "right" to chop peoples heads of for blasphemy, homosexuality etc. All you have done by way of explanation is repeat what you said, leaving those bits out. It is spineless.
I criticise Muslims, and their limp wristed apologists, because they undermine freedom, democracy and human rights. It is the height of idiocy to equate that with Nazism. The Nazis did not criticise Jews because of their stance on human rights. They killed them. Can you tell the difference, or do I need to explain it further? Are you so out of touch with our society's values that you cannot tell the difference between active support for human rights and Nazism? Have all the similarities between Muhammed and Hitler eluded you?
And you wonder why your stance is universally condemned, even by the Muslims you think you are standing up for.
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