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Reply #450 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:44am

Soren wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:

[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll. Got any more silly cartoons for us? If that is your level of debate, sheesh! Cheesy

My prejudices?

Islamophobia

What do you LIKE about Islam, Titties?

Why do I have to like it? I tolerate it. I like most Muslims that I've met, they tend to be great people.

You however habitually declare your hatred for all Muslims at every opportunity! Cheesy

I talk about Islam, you switch to Muslims.
I object to Islam the way I object to fascism, communism, Marxism.

These are not biological categories but freely chosen ethical, ideological positions.

You do not HAVE to be a Muslim or a fascist or a communist, Jehovah's Witness, Catholic, Anglican, atheist, Green, Labor or Liberal.

He is not even aware he is doing it. He can only see this argument in terms of people being unfair to Muslims, for no apparent reason. He does not even seem to be aware of the debate over ideology, or the fact that Muslims choose to believe a violent, oppressive ideology that they will impose on others wherever they are able to. He can only see Muslims who are unable to impose their will on other acting the way he thinks they should. He cannot even bring himself to ask Muslims what they believe, yet is happy to tell everyone else what they believe based on the fact that they have never personally done anything to him.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #451 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:15am I think he is fully aware - he just could not be a pain in the neck and argue the toss (his primary purpose) if he let on to the fact that he is aware of Islamic ideology and how it is unaccptable.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #452 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:14am What an idiot... baby photos... Not so babylike now eh....
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40808	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #453 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:19pm It's easy to find ignorant people expressing their hatred, isn't it Beowulf?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #454 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:34pm Funny thing is, even they don't look as looney as the Muslims. And they don't look like they're keen to help you get there.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #455 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:39pm freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:34pm: Funny thing is, even they don't look as looney as the Muslims. And they don't look like they're keen to help you get there. The brainwashed kid is the worst thing on it.... poor guy, no kid should be a pawn in these things.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #456 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:19pm:

http://urbangospelmission.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hate-kid.jpg

http://theamericanjesus.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/img_4768.jpg

It's easy to find ignorant people expressing their hatred, isn't it Beowulf? Roll Eyes

I've already commented on that bwian... no use paraphrasing me now... no prizes for 2nd.

Perhaps you should start a global audit... care to bet who'd win?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #457 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:44pm http://israelsmessiah.com/terrorism/teaching_hatred.htm
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #458 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 1:21am

Grendel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:44pm:

http://israelsmessiah.com/terrorism/teaching_hatred.htm

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That is certainly an informative and 'descriptive' site, grendel.
[citing the hatred of non-moslems, being inculcated into the minds of moslem children, by moslem parents]

Resulting in a mindset, in the adult moslem, like this !! ------->

Mohamed Morsi-
"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #459 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:34am Grendel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:44pm: http://israelsmessiah.com/terrorism/teaching_hatred.htm I could also post countless videos and pics of Israeli children learning to shoot weapons and vidoes showing little kids that when they grow up they would like to kill arabs and muslims.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #460 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:35am

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 1:21am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:44pm:

http://israelsmessiah.com/terrorism/teaching_hatred.htm

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That is certainly an informative and 'descriptive' site, grendel.
[citing the hatred of non-moslems, being inculcated into the minds of moslem children, by moslem parents]

Resulting in a mindset, in the adult moslem, like this !! ------->

Mohamed Morsi-
"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Jews are the occupiers and invaders.

I have no quarrel with Palestinian muslims teaching there kids to defend there homeland.

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #461 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 9:20am

wally1 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 1:21am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:44pm:

http://israelsmessiah.com/terrorism/teaching_hatred.htm

Roll Eyes

That is certainly an informative and 'descriptive' site, grendel.
[citing the hatred of non-moslems, being inculcated into the minds of moslem children, by moslem parents]

Resulting in a mindset, in the adult moslem, like this !! ------->

Mohamed Morsi-
"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Jews are the occupiers and invaders.

I have no quarrel with Palestinian muslims teaching there kids to defend there homeland.

In Britain today, how does an education, in a British university, benefit the moslem ?

Does a British university education, instil into the moslem, any degree of civility ?

Dictionary;
civility = = politeness and courtesy. polite remarks used in formal conversation.

Dictionary;
civilization = =
1 an advanced stage or system of human social development. the process of achieving this.
2 a civilized nation or region.

Google;

uk, university, "slaughter the jews"!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #462 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 12:18pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:16pm: You're a bit like a broken two-bob watch, Beowulf. Hot Breath, stop playing with him. You're just giving him oxygen. Awww, geee, why? He's so much fun! Narrow-minded, bigoted, Xenophobic, racist, the list is endless. What isn't there to enjoy about him?
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #463 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 12:23pm

Soren wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:

[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll. Got any more silly cartoons for us? If that is your level of debate, sheesh! Cheesy

My prejudices?

Islamophobia

What do you LIKE about Islam, Titties?

Why do I have to like it? I tolerate it. I like most Muslims that I've met, they tend to be great people.

You however habitually declare your hatred for all Muslims at every opportunity! Cheesy

I talk about Islam, you switch to Muslims.

And when others talk about Islam, you switch to Muslims...

Can't have it both ways! Maybe you do, like it both ways? Cheesy

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I object to Islam the way I object to fascism, communism, Marxism.

You carry to much greater extremes though. For every post you make on other subjects, you make about 10 against Muslims and their religion. You persecute them for their beliefs. You wouldn't do that to Christians. I've never seen you do anything except be a Christian apologetic! Cheesy

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You do not HAVE to be a Muslim or a fascist or a communist, Jehovah's Witness, Catholic, Anglican, atheist, Green, Labor or Liberal.

According to Yadda you have to be a Christian. There is no choice involved. Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #464 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 12:52pm

Soren wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

I don't like moslems, coz,
1/ moslems are infidels, and because,
2/ moslems are members of a death cult.

Are those legitimate reasons for not liking someone ?

Liars, and, murderers.

Nope, no bigotry there, none at all, Yadda! Roll Eyes

So, is this Muslim a "liar and murderer"?

http://confessionsofamuslimmommaholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/muslim_kids...

No.

He is a submissive-in-training, like his dear papa next to him, practicing submission. Do you practice submission, Brain?

And the difference to this little boy is?

Both are submitting themselves to the opiate of their choice, yet you only condemn one. Now, that is bigotry! Cheesy

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I do not want to ever be required to do that and I do not want my sons to ever be required to do that.

Never going to happen except in your wildest imagination! There will be no squads of Muslim submission enforcers roaming the streets. You really are quite paranoid, aren't you? Cheesy

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But if Islam had it's way, that is exactly what I and my descendants would be required to do.

Bullsh!t. You really are quite paranoid, aren't you? Cheesy

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You can respect that but I say foock that, laddie. Stick it up yer jumper.

I wonder how you treat the Christian submission enforcement squads who come knocking on your door? Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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