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Reply #975 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm
 
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Nice.  So that is how you perceive Brian, as a Cockroach?  So much for any attempt at objectivity on your part.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


It's a definition of spineless apologetics. You can't get any more objective than that. Now you have a yardstick by which to measure all the examples we are copying into this thread.
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Reply #976 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 5:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm:
|dev|null wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 11:03am:
freediver wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:53pm:
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Nice.  So that is how you perceive Brian, as a Cockroach?  So much for any attempt at objectivity on your part.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


It's a definition of spineless apologetics. You can't get any more objective than that. Now you have a yardstick by which to measure all the examples we are copying into this thread.


You've been learning from O'Brien in 1984 again, FD.

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If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever.


It is a jolly world, no?
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Reply #977 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm
 
Sounds like heaven for you and Brian and Gandalf. No end of things to apologise for.
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Reply #978 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 9:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm:
Sounds like heaven for you and Brian and Gandalf. No end of things to apologise for.


I suppose we could simply be all as arrogant as your and your compatriots, FD and tell everybody else how they should conform to your narrow minded views on what they should believe and how they should behave...   Roll Eyes

You are the ultimate fascist, FD.   You can't stand anybody who believes in giving people a fair go and judging them on what they do, rather than what you believe they think.    Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #979 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:59am
 
Does this qualify?

aquascoot wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:13am:
The problem with your approach karnal is this....

You and many from the more educated left don't acknowledge the humanity of those who express "I hate muslims" and sprint is not alone in saying that. I hear it often.

but in belittling someone who expresses this , what you do is drive them into a corner from which you only harden their attitudes.

so, in fact, this approach is worsening the situation and , as a smart man, I think you realise that this is the case.

if this problem is to be solved it will require rapport building and if elites wish to just taunt the average ocker as a racist or a coward or living in fear or whatever, then this is the path to achieving that result. (ie you will create racists, cowards and fear)

we have an expression

"give a dog a bad name "  (I presume it goes on to infer "and he will live up to it")  and just as hating on muslims will make them behave worse, so hating on your average suburban aussie and taunting him with put downs will make him behave worse.

in a way, you and sprint are playing the identical game of "fight fire with fire'  . you need the Buddha my friend Wink


I chuckled.

We must acknowledge the "humanity" of people who hate.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #980 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 8:04pm
 
You will only drive them to extremism if you make these vulnerable young people feel ostracised Gandalf. Then it will be your fault when they blow something up. You must be more accommodating of their hatred.
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Reply #981 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 8:14pm
 
ًWhat are you saying FD - that it will be my fault when someone like Sprint blows up a mosque? Because I didn't see the "humanity" in his hatred?
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Reply #982 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 9:03pm
 
You are alienating him with your bigotry.
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Reply #983 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 9:03pm:
You are alienating him with your bigotry.


I agree, FD, but I do feel we need to unpack the source of Sprint’s views.

He won’t talk to me. Perhaps you could question him on

1. His so-called "Holy" book.
2. The actions and beliefs of his evil conspirators.
3. The decrees of his sinister prophet.

I have a sneaky suspicion the answers will lead to one source, and one source only:

Abu.
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Reply #984 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:01pm
 
Is Sprint worth talking to?  I suspect his rabies shots failed.   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #985 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:33pm
 
It looks to me like sprint is never shy to talk about his views.
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Reply #986 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
It looks to me like sprint is never shy to talk about his views.


But are his views worth listening to?  Just another rabid Islamophobic voice in the crying in the wilderness that no one believes or understands him.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #987 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:43pm
 
No-one is forcing you to read it.
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Reply #988 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:43pm:
No-one is forcing you to read it.


Something though, seems to be forcing him to write it!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #989 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:32am
 
LOL

|dev|null wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 6:12pm:
Children, children, please, seeing you squabbling like that is distressing.  Sappho doesn't deserve your opprobrium, HB.  Sappho is normally quite a deep thinker on most topics but I'm surprised you haven't seen this thread - http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1410702542, where Muslims do speak out against radicalisation.   What's your opinion of their efforts?

Sappho, I apologise for my brother, he can be somewhat hot-headed at time but he does have a point.  Muslims are held to a higher standard than other religions.  Further, you did not put a time limit on when they had to protest and not all the links in that Google search are out of date.   This might be more appropriate?


Get fecked Brian!  Don't you go apologising for anything I've said!  Sappho had it coming.

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