longweekend58 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

When one of you clowns can demonstrate we need roads instead of a horse.

When one of you clowns can demonstrate we need the telephone instead of telegraphs.

I don't expect you (or any coalition supporters/politicians) to understand what we need in the future.

It's much better to plan for today and let them worry about the future.

I moved office/shop a few times 1985–2010. Mostly just south of the parklands around the Adelaide CBD, usually 2Km or so from the Adelaide GPO. Have had offices on several of the roads serving the southern side of Adelaide CBD. Unley Rd, King William Road and Duthy St. There are also Fullarton Rd and Goodwood Rd. Apart from Port Rd coming into the southwest of the CBD all the roads coming into Adelaide CBD (Kensington Rd, The Parade, Magill Rd, Payneham Rd, North East Rd and Walkerville Terrace and Prospect Rd are all roads built very early (mid–late 1800s on) in SA’s history. Main North Rd is wider than all roads bar Port Rd.

They are all (bar two) way too narrow for todays traffic. I have been in my shop very early weekday mornings and Duthy St just outside my door was a parking lot.

Fraudband is this story just repeated 100 years on and electronic rather than physical. With Telstra’s copper being corroded to buggery and too narrow (.32 and .4mm rather than .6+mm diameter) to give us more than 20–25mbps if you are lucky enough to be close to a node. Not good enough now, woefully inadequate in another 3-4 years.

Rather than digging tunnels or building elevated roads over these too–narrow roads—build the NBN, the real one and TAKE CARS OFF THE ROAD. Telecommuting has not been a poster child of the digital economy but the real NBN can provide telepresence, real time, rock solid collaboration on digital documents will be possible. Truly fast broadband will really boost GDP, have seen estimates of $70Bn a year boost!

Tell your mate Malcolm Turncoat to get out the way!

# wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:46pm:


a graph that ENDS 10 years ago is an embarrassment to you.  it is of no value whatsoever in making your point. the fact that you cant find recent data tends to suggest that such data demolishes your case.

# wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:46pm:


run away???  the concept of WORK doesn't really gel with you, does it?  no wonder you want super-fast broadband.  It will give you something to do during the long unemployed days downloading porn and movies.

# wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:


Id like to see you build a car or a house via telecommuting.

last you heard residential demand was anything you want it to be.  the idea that in just 7 years demand would be 100 times what it is now is without justification.    but so much of what you say is thus.

You are still to justify your claim that bandwidth usage is exponential.  Given that ADLS 2+ has been around for 10 years and nothing has changed since that would tend to suggest you just made it up.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
And I'd like to see you write the Great Australian Novel with a sledgehammer. Horses for courses, young simpleton.

Not everything can be done via telecommuting, but the NBN will facilitate much and contribute to national productivity. That's why I support the best, though I won't benefit directly.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
You really have lost it. The link to that projection is in the 196th post in this topic.

Let's see: so far in this topic, you've proved that you have a God Complex and an addiction to porn. Now, judging by your memory lapses, it seems you have early-onset Alzheimer's Disease. If you're this far gone now, by the time you reach my age you'll be a dribbling vegetable.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:31pm:
You poor degenerate; the evidence is in the graph. I don't doubt that you'll deny it, but any reasonably competent reader will recognise the nature of those plots.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Products/5B0FF60DBBD4E180CA257BFA0012782...

ABS report on internet activity—fixed line (highest speed) remains the most popular.

The copper is deteriorating—with pits full of water that is inevitable. Speeds do decrease over time—try reading Whirlpool occasionally. With the increase in file sizes we need a network topology to cope with the ever–increasing data requirements. We need to boost eHealth and telehealth to cope with the increasing overhang of aging Boomers—these need reliability. Neither copper nor wireless can guarantee relibility. Sure, a pallet or a container can be tracked via wireless and that sort of monitoring need not be continuous, medical and security monitoring does need to be reliable.

The copper is barely coping now and that will get worse while the data loads are increasing as shown by the ABS stats and other sources (CommsDay, Cisco etc etc.)