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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #30 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:23pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

... - tax is payable on net profit.

Which is why 100% tax on net profit is not such a silly idea. It could encourage investment over profiteering.

It's not a silly idea, it's a ludicrous idea.

Can you substantiate that or is it just offensive to you faith?

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Reply #31 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:25pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

... - tax is payable on net profit.

Which is why 100% tax on net profit is not such a silly idea. It could encourage investment over profiteering.

100% tax on profits? so your idea is that business will operate at its own cost and own risk and any profits they make will all go to govt? Well there is a policy designed to destroy the economy overnight. Every international business will close up overnight and the locals wont be far behind.

that has to be the stupidest idea floated here in a really long time.

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Reply #32 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:27pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

... LOWER taxation rates is a stimulus ...

Higher business taxation would facilitate lower personal taxation. Perhaps eliminating personal taxes, and the costs associated with collecting them, entirely. Collecting taxes from fewer entities just has to be a money-saver, now doesn't it?

LOL... you have to be trolling surely. no one could possibly be this stupid. Higher business taxes would in fact lower personal taxation by massively reducing employment.

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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #33 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:28pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:08pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

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Let's look at the NBN and its price tag of around $60 Billion these days.

YOU think my suggestion that the 200,000 petitioners should pay for the NBN is inequitable?

I reckon it's as equitable as expecting those who campaign for water reticulation, sewerage, roads, etc. to pay for what is, after all, public infrastructure.
Swagman wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Using the above stats (Source; ATO)

$60,000,000,000 - Price tag of NBN

Who will be paying for the NBN now?

9% of people are paying for 49% of it. ($29 Billion)

40% of people are paying for 90% of it ($54 Billion)

25% (ONE QUARTER) of people pay

ZERO

You think this is equitable?

If those who can afford most end up paying most, then yes. Remember, this is a public good, not private property.

FTTN is a public good. FTTH is a public indulgence to be paid for by people other than you.

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Reply #34 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

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longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:02pm:

... 'equitable' is when OTHER people pay your tax ...

Equitable is when those who can pay most, do pay most.

No it isn't. Equitable has a more complex definition and since it is based on the term EQUAL that is your clue.
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1. impartial or reasonable; fair; just

and you think 'fair and just' have immutable, unequivocal meanings???

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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #35 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:25pm:

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100% tax on profits? so your idea ...

If you bother to find out what you're getting yourself into, you'll realise that it isn't my idea. Check the history; I've made it quite clear that I'm playing Devil's Advocate with an idea raised by another poster.

Is making a fool of yourself some kind of perverse hobby?

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: NBN progress? Reply #36 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:33pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:27pm: ... you have to be trolling surely. ... Just playing Devil's Advocate, which is clear from the history.
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Reply #37 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:33pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:25pm:

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100% tax on profits? so your idea ...

If you bother to find out what you're getting yourself into, you'll realise that it isn't my idea. Check the history; I've made it quite clear that I'm playing Devil's Advocate with an idea raised by another poster.

Is making a fool of yourself some kind of perverse hobby?

and in todays lesson you learn that I do not read every post made to this forum or even close. But it is you making the claim which you are now obviously backing away from after realising it was the epically stupid idea it is.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: NBN progress? Reply #39 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:34pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:28pm: ... FTTN is a public good. FTTH is a public indulgence to be paid for by people other than you. Unsubstantiated opinion notwithstanding, I expect to pay my share.
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Reply #40 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:29pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:57pm:

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Equitable is when those who can pay most, do pay most.

No it isn't. Equitable has a more complex definition and since it is based on the term EQUAL that is your clue.
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equitable Quote:

1. impartial or reasonable; fair; just

and you think 'fair and just' have immutable, unequivocal meanings???

I think they have meanings. I reckon any reasonable reader will know what equitable means.

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Reply #41 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:39pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:25pm:

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100% tax on profits? so your idea ...

If you bother to find out what you're getting yourself into, you'll realise that it isn't my idea. Check the history; I've made it quite clear that I'm playing Devil's Advocate with an idea raised by another poster.

Is making a fool of yourself some kind of perverse hobby?

and in todays lesson you learn that I do not read every post made to this forum or even close. ...

Which is why you repeatedly make a fool of yourself. Before engaging mouth (or keyboard), ensure brain is in gear.

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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #42 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

... you have to be trolling surely. ...

Just playing Devil's Advocate, which is clear from the history.

playing the clown more likely.

Says one who repeatedly and frequently makes such a fool of himself.

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Reply #43 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:51pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

... - tax is payable on net profit.

Which is why 100% tax on net profit is not such a silly idea. It could encourage investment over profiteering.

It's not a silly idea, it's a ludicrous idea.

Can you substantiate that or is it just offensive to you faith?

It's offensive to my faith.
And hard to see why anyone would risk anything if there is no profit possibility.

But mainly, offensive to my faith.

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Reply #44 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:03pm

# wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

viewpoint wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

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You've got it wrong..Australia should never have invested in infrastructure because its very expensive.

And will be obsolete when they finally finish it, if they do, at some later (much much later) date.

You can't substantiate that assertion, can you? Are you longweekend58?

From your responses #......errr.....for arguments sake lets say #2.....because you seem to be full of it, and basically just pose inane questions on most of your responses.

No, I'm not LW old boy......

Well to answer this "question", at the rate the cost for this supa-dupa multi-billion dollar labor white elephant has blown out, and judging from the length of time the experts give it to "completion"......yes I would have to say it will be obsolete .......and that's what far more knowledgable individuals than you or I say......does that substantiate it enough old boy......but you do realise that I am not a clairvoyant and neither are you, I just go by logic!

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