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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #90 - Sep 20th, 2013 at 5:18pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
# wrote on Sep 19th, 2013 at 7:23pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 19th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
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oh I think Turnball might have actually thought these kinds of issues through. ...

Does Turnbull do anything but what Abbott directs? Does Abbott do anything that Murdoch wouldn't approve? For those who merely do as they're directed, what's to think through?
By the way: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 2:06pm:
# wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:45am:
... By 2020, the network will be faced with 1Gb/s demands. As you might remember, you've not been able to substantiate your denial of that forecast.
...

why do you continue with such unsubstantiated drivel.  Quigley made the claim in a politically motivated rant.  ...

You've never substantiated your denial. If Quigley's forecast lacks credibility, why can't you point to one example of anyone credible* saying different?

* credible: that's not you, not me and not any politician.



when you post like that then there is no point in debating with you. you are nothing more than a conspiracy theorist and a fool.  ...
Abuse constitutes substantiation - how?

When you make a habit of fabrication and unsubstantiated assertion, you really need to learn how to handle being called to account.
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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #91 - Sep 21st, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
... you are nothing more than a conspiracy theorist ...
What conspiracy theory do you think you see?

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
... and a fool. ...
Which of us that describes, others will judge.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
... There is no possible way to ever change your mind because facts and evidence have nothing to do with it.
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I've linked to evidence. You've made assertions, which you have consistently proven unable to substantiate. Does unsubstantiated assertion qualify as fact or evidence?

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
enjoy the FTTN you will be getting.  It's more than YOU deserve.
I wish.

I live in a regional area. By all reports, I'll be out of range of fixed wireless.

When the copper is replaced in my neck of the woods, I expect it will be replaced with fibre (as will practically all copper in the network). The existing copper is about ten years old. The service life of copper telecommunications cabling, I'm told, is generally 30 to 50 years, depending on environmental conditions. When the copper is eventually replaced, I reckon I'll be well past caring.

I support fibre to the premises, because it's best for the nation. I won't benefit directly.

Abbott's Murdoch-inspired policy, I see as corrupt.
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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #92 - Sep 24th, 2013 at 12:39pm
 
NBN board sacked.  Competition allowed...

yay!! the adults are back in charge.
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Reply #93 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 11:57am
 
Leaked NBN Co corporate plan shows project on track

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The cost of connecting each home and business to the fibre-optic national broadband network has dropped to less than $2500 and key financial estimates of the project remain largely unchanged, according to a leaked copy of NBN Co's latest three-year plan.

However, new Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull said he does not believe the figures...

Mr Turnbull also confirmed this week that fibre-to-the-home connections already under construction would be completed, affecting about 300,000 premises, but the new government would wait for the outcome of a 60-day strategic review before deciding whether to proceed with the rest of the fibre-to-the-home rollout.
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Mr Turnbull called for its release during the election, but did not release it either when he received a copy as part of his incoming ministerial briefing last week. Fairfax Media obtained a copy this week and published it in full online (PDF).

NBN Co has found the average cost of running fibre from a 'fibre access node' to inside a premise has decreased from $7,400 during trial period to between $2,200 and $2,500, depending on traffic management and rock drilling at each site. NBN Co also makes clear that once it estimates and fixes the cost of connecting each house in a rollout zone, the contractor ''bears the risk in relation to any variance in the mix of infrastructure, and the level of boring and trenching that is required'', but the final cost depends on traffic management and rock drilling.
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The report also shows that while take-up rates were slower in the first rollout zones, particularly Tasmania's first three sites, it has been much faster in later rollout sites. For example, a quarter of households in Coffs Harbour signed up for an NBN fibre service with 22 weeks, and in the Canberra suburb of Crace 36 per cent had a service within 23 weeks. But in Smithton on Tasmania's north coast less than a quarter of premises had a fibre service 150 weeks after the rollout occurred.

On average NBN customers download 47 gigabytes (GB) of data per month, about 16GB more than the national average, and more than half were using the two fastest plans available, which offer peak speeds of 50 megabits per second (Mbps) or 100Mbps.

Average revenue per user is expected to be $42 per month in 2013 and to increase to $64 per month in 2021 as consumers buy more and faster broadband-delivered products and businesses take up services such as ''committed information rate'' traffic.

NBN Co still expects about 74 per cent of the households within the fibre footprint to use its network, while the remaining premises would either be vacant or use mobile-only connections.
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Update 25/09/2013 2:42 PM
Reply #94 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:43pm
 
We’re changing things!

Yesterday afternoon, Malcolm Turnbull gave a press conference and promised that the NBN review would be apolitical, technologically agnostic, and involve expert advice. And he’s left the door open to continuing fibre to the premises in some spots too. You can read more about it here.

A lot of people were pretty dismissive of our campaign, but we’ve started a national conversation about the way the NBN is delivered and we’ve got the Minister’s attention.

Last week, I asked for your feedback in a short survey.  The results showed two things really clearly - we’re a mix of people of every political stripe who just want to see the best NBN for Australia, and we’re not giving up.

Can you help? NSW is home to the Prime Minister and some of the highest ranking ministers in cabinet.  Can you take a few seconds to give them a call and pass on the message: You don't want them to sign off on Turnbull's review plan unless it's truly open and acknowledges the public feeling on this issue.

Tony Abbott: (02) 9977 6411

Joe Hockey: (02) 9929 9822

Scott Morrison: (02) 9523 0339

Now that the conversation is taking off, we need to cut through the noise with a simple message to Mr Turnbull: the best way to get the right policy is to open it up to the people.

Can you help by contacting a senior cabinet member in your state and telling them: when he brings it to cabinet next week, don't sign off on Turnbull's review plan unless it's truly open and acknowledges the public.

Thanks for everything you’ve done - let’s keep it up.

Nick
P.S. This campaign just keeps growing - it's passed 260,000 people now - so I’ve asked a couple of other people to help out. They’ll help make sure we stay in touch and that you’re up to date with what’s next.
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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #95 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
NBN board sacked.  Competition allowed...

yay!! the adults are back in charge.


Multiple NBN's?..I thought we couldnt afford one?  Grin
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Re: NBN progress?
Reply #96 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:48pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
NBN board sacked.  Competition allowed...

yay!! the adults are back in charge.


Multiple NBN's?..I thought we couldnt afford one?  Grin

It does mean that the Nat voters will get an inferior communications system in the country so they are getting what they deserve for voting for these idiots  Grin
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Reply #97 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:33pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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Multiple NBN's?..I thought we couldnt afford one?
Remember HFC? Select markets got more than one service; most of the nation got nothing.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:48pm:
It does mean that the Nat voters will get an inferior communications system in the country so they are getting what they deserve for voting for these idiots  Grin
The shouting seems to be all about more densely populated markets. For truly rural and remote markets, there's little difference - at least, as far as I can tell.
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Reply #98 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 5:20pm
 
Good to see a responsible adult in charge of the NBN instead of that complete clown, Conroy.
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Reply #99 - Oct 1st, 2013 at 4:45pm
 
It's working -- they're being inundated with calls. With just days until Malcolm Turnbull is likely to open up the NBN plan for cabinet consideration, the offices of senior ministers are starting to hear our message in support of the National Broadband Network.

And we know it's having an impact. After 200,000+ signatures, huge pressure on social media, and thousands of individual phone calls, the debate over the NBN continues dominate the front page of national newspapers like the Australian Financial Review and The Age.

The next few days are our chance to change the course of our future NBN -- in a big way. Malcolm Turnbull has already promised to be "technology agnostic", but the key will be whether the government opens up to public consultation in the review . If you haven't yet, can you please leave a message with a cabinet minister or your local MP today?

Here are some details. It takes just a few minutes -- and can be as simple as calling and saying that you support a fibre-to-the-home NBN and want the government to consult the public.

Ian MacFarlane - Minister for Industry: (07) 4632 4144

Bruce Billson - Minister for Small Business: (03) 9781 2333

Joe Hockey - Treasurer: (02) 9929 9822

Mathias Cormann - Minister for Finance: (08) 9325 4227

Barnaby Joyce - Minister for Agriculture: (02) 6761 3080

We need every Minister entering Cabinet to have heard our message for this to work: that the public won't accept anything but full consultation on the NBN, and that fibre-to-the-home is important to our nation's future.
This is how we keep the pressure on. It's how we eventually win our NBN back.

Thanks for your help.

Nick.

P.S. There's a heap of updates happening on our Facebook page --  so make sure you LIKE it. Head over and let us know how contacting your MP went after you call.
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Re: Update 25/09/2013 2:42 PM
Reply #100 - Oct 1st, 2013 at 5:26pm
 
# wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:43pm:
We’re changing things!

Yesterday afternoon, Malcolm Turnbull gave a press conference and promised that the NBN review would be apolitical, technologically agnostic, and involve expert advice. And he’s left the door open to continuing fibre to the premises in some spots too. You can read more about it here.

A lot of people were pretty dismissive of our campaign, but we’ve started a national conversation about the way the NBN is delivered and we’ve got the Minister’s attention.

Last week, I asked for your feedback in a short survey.  The results showed two things really clearly - we’re a mix of people of every political stripe who just want to see the best NBN for Australia, and we’re not giving up.

Can you help? NSW is home to the Prime Minister and some of the highest ranking ministers in cabinet.  Can you take a few seconds to give them a call and pass on the message: You don't want them to sign off on Turnbull's review plan unless it's truly open and acknowledges the public feeling on this issue.

Tony Abbott: (02) 9977 6411

Joe Hockey: (02) 9929 9822

Scott Morrison: (02) 9523 0339

Now that the conversation is taking off, we need to cut through the noise with a simple message to Mr Turnbull: the best way to get the right policy is to open it up to the people.

Can you help by contacting a senior cabinet member in your state and telling them: when he brings it to cabinet next week, don't sign off on Turnbull's review plan unless it's truly open and acknowledges the public.

Thanks for everything you’ve done - let’s keep it up.

Nick
P.S. This campaign just keeps growing - it's passed 260,000 people now - so I’ve asked a couple of other people to help out. They’ll help make sure we stay in touch and that you’re up to date with what’s next.


Good on you for getting involved positively  #  .

I wish for the best outcome for us all
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Reply #101 - Oct 1st, 2013 at 9:33pm
 
Let me get this

(1) Labor's roll out target is 1 million homes by 2013
(2) Labor revised this target down to 500,000
(3) Labor revised this target down AGAIN to 200,000

to date - it's only connected to 150,000 homes!!!!

And Labor wants to talk about keeping a progress score?  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #102 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 7:13pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 9:33pm:
... Labor wants to talk about keeping a progress score? ...
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Reply #103 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 5:03pm
 
# wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Maqqa wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 9:33pm:
... Labor wants to talk about keeping a progress score? ...
Do they?


yep.  its like the carbon tax.  they just want to destroy themselves by reminding us all of the promises they broke.
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Reply #104 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 2:10pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 5:03pm:
# wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Maqqa wrote on Oct 1st, 2013 at 9:33pm:
... Labor wants to talk about keeping a progress score? ...
Do they?


yep.  its like the carbon tax.  they just want to destroy themselves by reminding us all of the promises they broke.

Have you and Maqqa been smoking grow-your-owns?  Roll Eyes
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