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Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:18pm

Abbott has stated that he won't be talking to the media unless he has something to say.

This suggests that he is evading scrutiny. His biggest weakness is an inability to answer unscripted questions. He seems to be seeking to avoid this sort of situation.

This will backfire. If Abbott makes a mistake, as he inevitably will sooner or later, going to ground will not be perceived well by the media or public. It is why the former Victorian Premier Baillieu's approval crashed in Victoria and the ALP in Victoria gained 10 points on the opinion polls inside a year. It is why Kennett lost office in Victoria in 1999.

I prefer leaders who are willing to be accountable.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny? Reply #1 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:43pm This is very thin gruel even for a Bum (you made a typo with your login name, pal).
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny? Reply #2 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:44pm Abbott is a douchebag but he does deserve a grace period. I'm also enjoying not seeing a pm on the news all the time.
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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #3 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:50pm

Bam wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

Abbott has stated that he won't be talking to the media unless he has something to say.

This suggests that he is evading scrutiny. His biggest weakness is an inability to answer unscripted questions. He seems to be seeking to avoid this sort of situation.

This will backfire. If Abbott makes a mistake, as he inevitably will sooner or later, going to ground will not be perceived well by the media or public. It is why the former Victorian Premier Baillieu's approval crashed in Victoria and the ALP in Victoria gained 10 points on the opinion polls inside a year. It is why Kennett lost office in Victoria in 1999.

I prefer leaders who are willing to be accountable.

And it's up to the Opposition party to hold him to account in Parliament just as Abbott has been doing for years now.
That's their job.
The medias job is to report the news, not make it.

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #4 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:59pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:50pm:

Bam wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

Abbott has stated that he won't be talking to the media unless he has something to say.

This suggests that he is evading scrutiny. His biggest weakness is an inability to answer unscripted questions. He seems to be seeking to avoid this sort of situation.

This will backfire. If Abbott makes a mistake, as he inevitably will sooner or later, going to ground will not be perceived well by the media or public. It is why the former Victorian Premier Baillieu's approval crashed in Victoria and the ALP in Victoria gained 10 points on the opinion polls inside a year. It is why Kennett lost office in Victoria in 1999.

I prefer leaders who are willing to be accountable.

And it's up to the Opposition party to hold him to account in Parliament just as Abbott has been doing for years now.
That's their job.
The medias job is to report the news, not make it.

When did you have this sudden revelation?

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #5 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:05pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:50pm:

Bam wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

Abbott has stated that he won't be talking to the media unless he has something to say.

This suggests that he is evading scrutiny. His biggest weakness is an inability to answer unscripted questions. He seems to be seeking to avoid this sort of situation.

This will backfire. If Abbott makes a mistake, as he inevitably will sooner or later, going to ground will not be perceived well by the media or public. It is why the former Victorian Premier Baillieu's approval crashed in Victoria and the ALP in Victoria gained 10 points on the opinion polls inside a year. It is why Kennett lost office in Victoria in 1999.

I prefer leaders who are willing to be accountable.

And it's up to the Opposition party to hold him to account in Parliament just as Abbott has been doing for years now.
That's their job.
The medias job is to report the news, not make it.

now it's an issue? Where have you been hiding the last 3 years? Cheesy

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #6 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:09pm

Soren wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:43pm:

This is very thin gruel even for a Bum (you made a typo with your login name, pal).

Bum! Oh, old boy, you’ll really have to bend over and take one for Mother.

Bum has my vote as best poster on politics on this board - hands down.

Your own contributions are as consistently as generous and insightful as your post below.

But then, you studied stool pathology at the University of Bologney, so you’re clearly above Australian political discussion.

Bum!

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #7 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:16pm

Bam wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

Abbott has stated that he won't be talking to the media unless he has something to say.

This suggests that he is evading scrutiny. His biggest weakness is an inability to answer unscripted questions. He seems to be seeking to avoid this sort of situation.

This will backfire. If Abbott makes a mistake, as he inevitably will sooner or later, going to ground will not be perceived well by the media or public. It is why the former Victorian Premier Baillieu's approval crashed in Victoria and the ALP in Victoria gained 10 points on the opinion polls inside a year. It is why Kennett lost office in Victoria in 1999.

I prefer leaders who are willing to be accountable.

He didn't say he was gonna be invisible. Breaking the 'look at me...look at me' must make an announcement because we need to be infront of the media every hour on the hour nonsense that Krudd and Dullard stupidly substituted for good government.

Seems to have tied your knickers up in knots already and its only day 1.... Grin

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny? Reply #8 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:42pm Yep...Australia is going to have a secret govt not unlike the hardline dictatorships of the past. Oh well voters...you were warned about the mad monk before you voted and now its to late. I wonder how long it will be before the brown shirts knock on the door of anyone who dares question this govt?
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny? Reply #9 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:44pm Why go people want their pm on the news cycle 24/7. Take it as a chance to have a break from it. Take the dogs for a walk, call the family. I don't know about you guys but I'm thankful for it.
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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #10 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:46pm

For the dummies, Abbott is not going to go out to the media and just talk because he needs votes. Thats what election campaigns are for or for a labor government who loves their own voice and thinks everyone else does too.

No, he will go to thje media if he feels the Australian people want to know something or feels they need to know something.

Thank god the adults are back in chanrge.

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #11 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:58pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

Oh well voters...you were warned about the mad monk before you voted and now its to late.

Exactly. Notice how Abbott keeps reinforcing his intention to "govern in the interest of all Australians"? How he keeps saying he won’t let us down, how he’s there for all, including those who didn’t vote for him?

How can you trust someone who’s constantly trying to prove they’re not such a bad guy?

Australians were warned, and Abbott knows how easily they can turn.

He’s going to circle the noose slowly, and with stealth. As Abbott says, slow and steady wins the race.

Let’s just pray he uses enough lube to do the job.

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #12 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 10:01pm

Abbott is not really the Prime Minister

Australia will be Prime Minister-less over the next 3 years

Think of Tony Abbott as a CEO

Remember what he said on election night - Australia is under new management, we are now open for business

I wonder what bonuses Abbott will be handing himself and his mignons?

(more like Abbott will do a Costello, and cash in after politics with a corrupt banking cartel like Goldman Sachs)

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Re: Is Abbott evading scrutiny?
Reply #14 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 10:55pm

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 9:44pm:

Why go people want their pm on the news cycle 24/7. Take it as a chance to have a break from it. Take the dogs for a walk, call the family.

I don't know about you guys but I'm thankful for it.

You don't know this.

Abbott is well known for frequent media stunts. This is someone that spends a lot of taxpayers' money on charter flights and other extravagant expenditure just so there's a stunt du jour for media consumption. He spends more on charter flights alone per year than the majority of Australians earn. And you think he's suddenly going to stop the stunts now he's the Prime Minister?

Abbott only wants to talk to the media when he wants to talk to them. Abbott doesn't want to talk to the media when they want to talk to him. This is a miscalculation. It will create a gap in the news coverage that the Opposition will be only too happy to fill.

There's signs that this government is going to be much more secretive than we are used to. This is one. Here is another: Immigration Minister Morrison has indicated that he's not going to tell the media anymore - and by extension, us - if an asylum seeker boat arrives. Are these just isolated examples, or is this a general pattern?

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