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Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!

There's only one place for temperatures & CO2 to go and that is up......!!!!!!

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:40pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!

There's only one place for temperatures & CO2 to go and that is up......!!!!!!

That is a false statement

Care to back it up with anything peer reviewed?

Or is the scientific peer review method a conspiracy as well?

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:46pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!

There's only one place for temperatures & CO2 to go and that is up......!!!!!!

That is a false statement

Care to back it up with anything peer reviewed?

Or is the scientific peer review method a conspiracy as well?

Its in our history chimp, we're coming out of a mini ice age.

Grow up and face facts..... Cheesy

So according to Mann we didn't have a mini ice age or a medieval warm period.

I totally understand why you are so confused....???

Ask Mann for his hockey stick method, maybe you can work out where he went wrong..

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Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

You're not allowed to use IPCC data. Aren't they supposed to be the devil incarnate? You know, the global conspiracy? Christopher Monckton would be crossing himself by now.

It's quite fortunate that many studies have been done since 1990, but you really like that unrepresentative regional Northern Hemisphere study, don't you? Maybe we should all go back to 25 year old data and ignore all the research that has occurred since then.

Research? I see no research!

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am

muso wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

You're not allowed to use IPCC data. Aren't they supposed to be the devil incarnate? You know, the global conspiracy? Christopher Monckton would be crossing himself by now.

It's quite fortunate that many studies have been done since 1990, but you really like that unrepresentative regional Northern Hemisphere study, don't you? Maybe we should all go back to 25 year old data and ignore all the research that has occurred since then.

Muso its no surprise to me that like chimp you're a confused individual when you put your faith in Mann & Co. and their shabby hockey stick models.

The medieval warm period and the mini ice age are facts that form part of our weather history.

Choosing to ignore such simple historical data just because Mann & Co. produced some hockey stick models is a sad reflection on your ignorance and maybe even your arrogance.

Especially when Mann & Co. will not give these methods they used to produce the hockey stick diagram over to the scientific community for assessment.

To me that just shows how fraudulent their work is.....!!!!!

You can go on believing Cinderella stories if you wish, but it is sad that people like your self who claim to be educated can have the wool pulled over their eyes so easily.

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #8 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 6:07pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!

There's only one place for temperatures & CO2 to go and that is up......!!!!!!

RATES OF CHANGE SAY WHAT?????????????????????????????????????????

here we go again... another 10 billion word wild goose chase to amuse the silver spooners whom were given everything to keep the dynasty alive Roll Eyes

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #9 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 6:14pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am:

muso wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

You're not allowed to use IPCC data. Aren't they supposed to be the devil incarnate? You know, the global conspiracy? Christopher Monckton would be crossing himself by now.

It's quite fortunate that many studies have been done since 1990, but you really like that unrepresentative regional Northern Hemisphere study, don't you? Maybe we should all go back to 25 year old data and ignore all the research that has occurred since then.

Muso its no surprise to me that like chimp you're a confused individual when you put your faith in Mann & Co. and their shabby hockey stick models.

The medieval warm period and the mini ice age are facts that form part of our weather history.

Choosing to ignore such simple historical data just because Mann & Co. produced some hockey stick models is a sad reflection on your ignorance and maybe even your arrogance.

Especially when Mann & Co. will not give these methods they used to produce the hockey stick diagram over to the scientific community for assessment.

To me that just shows how fraudulent their work is.....!!!!!

You can go on believing Cinderella stories if you wish, but it is sad that people like your self who claim to be educated can have the wool pulled over their eyes so easily.

DEAREST AJAX: we've all heard of 'Jevons Paradox' so your numbers game is well understood!

You know something about limits do you mr tryhard: well then, how are your kids kids kids going to survive when 1.3 billion Chinese have faster internet than the-clever Roll Eyes

-country-pwned-by-Murdoch-old-man-lovers-that-built-china has?

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #10 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 6:32pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

The Non Governmental Internation Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

The Truth About Climate Change by the NIPCC
http://heartland.org/media-library/pdfs/CCR-II/CCR-II-Full.pdf

Climate Study: Evidence Leans Against Human-Caused Global Warming
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFT...

What is the mechanism that has been driving the global thermal retention that has occurred over the past 60 odd years?

You do you know don't you?

Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!

There's only one place for temperatures & CO2 to go and that is up......!!!!!!

That is a false statement

Care to back it up with anything peer reviewed?

Or is the scientific peer review method a conspiracy as well?

Its in our history chimp, we're coming out of a mini ice age.

Grow up and face facts..... Cheesy

So according to Mann we didn't have a mini ice age or a medieval warm period.

I totally understand why you are so confused....???

Ask Mann for his hockey stick method, maybe you can work out where he went wrong..

http://i40.tinypic.com/jq23hj.jpg

Both of those graphs show pretty much exactly the same thing.

Except one has error bars and the other doesn't

And no - we didn't have a mini "ice age" - if you take the real meaning of "ice age" being a period of widespread glaciation. Evidence shows that there some regional cooling from around the 1500s to 1800s, just as evidence shows some regional warming in the centuries before this.

THis "Its called coming out of a mini ice age......!!!!" is truly one of the stupidest things you have ever written. And that is a big call.

Try to learn SOMETHING about this stuff before you start spouting crap.

Here - I'll keep it simple for you. Start with the basic wiki pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Get back to us if there is anything you don't understand

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #12 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 6:36pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am:

The medieval warm period and the mini ice age are facts that form part of our weather history.

No - they are not. Not in the way you seem to think anyway.

They are simple labels given to hypotheses based around historical proxy data.

Ajax wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am:

Choosing to ignore such simple historical data just because Mann & Co. produced some hockey stick models is a sad reflection on your ignorance and maybe even your arrogance.

No one is ignoring anything. No one is ignoring any simple historical data

You have simply been sucked in to believeing crap you you have read on silly blogs.

And you don't seem to understand what an error bar is.

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Re: NonGovernmental International Panel Climate Change
Reply #13 - Sep 24^th, 2013 at 3:50pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am:

The medieval warm period and the mini ice age are facts that form part of our weather history.

No - they are not. Not in the way you seem to think anyway.

They are simple labels given to hypotheses based around historical proxy data.

Ajax wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 9:53am:

Choosing to ignore such simple historical data just because Mann & Co. produced some hockey stick models is a sad reflection on your ignorance and maybe even your arrogance.

No one is ignoring anything. No one is ignoring any simple historical data

You have simply been sucked in to believeing crap you you have read on silly blogs.

And you don't seem to understand what an error bar is.

WoW

Like I keep saying its the alamists who should be called deniers.

Especially when it doesn't suit you LOL...!!!!!

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