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Reply #45 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:11pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:54pm:
muso wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 11:45am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 11:29am:
The Vikings sailed NORTH of Greenland which is currently ice-covered.  Northern Greenland cemeteries are located in what is now perma-frost.  that kind of evidence demands a verdict.


OK, I thought I knew about the Viking settlements in Greenland as I've read all the sagas in Norse. Please provide evidence that they sailed North of Greenland, and evidence of Northern Greenland cemeteries.

I'd love to see what you come up with, especially considering that the Vikings cremated their dead. 


it wasn't Vikings burial but locals.


Locals? that would be Inuits? right?
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When the Inuit still lived in camps or as nomads, they had no special tomb sites, much less cemeteries. Before burial, the women of the camp washed the body of the deceased and adjusted the hair; on dead women they braided the hair starting at the forehead. Then they wrapped the body in a large blanket of caribou hide or wool and laid it down far out in the tundra, face up. They stacked cairns on top, to protect the body from being eaten by animals. Nevertheless, scattered human bones can be found throughout the tundra, testifying to the work of carnivores.

http://www.ansgar-walk.de/uploads/html/abriss.htm

So that claim is looking very suss. (Maybe it's pining for the fjords)  What about the other claim?

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The Vikings sailed NORTH of Greenland which is currently ice-covered


Is that also from a Christopher Monckton website dedicated to Uranus and Gaia?
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Re: Michael Mann's hockey stick - misleading the world
Reply #46 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:39pm
 
muso wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:54pm:
muso wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 11:45am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 11:29am:
The Vikings sailed NORTH of Greenland which is currently ice-covered.  Northern Greenland cemeteries are located in what is now perma-frost.  that kind of evidence demands a verdict.


OK, I thought I knew about the Viking settlements in Greenland as I've read all the sagas in Norse. Please provide evidence that they sailed North of Greenland, and evidence of Northern Greenland cemeteries.

I'd love to see what you come up with, especially considering that the Vikings cremated their dead. 


it wasn't Vikings burial but locals.


Locals? that would be Inuits? right?
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When the Inuit still lived in camps or as nomads, they had no special tomb sites, much less cemeteries. Before burial, the women of the camp washed the body of the deceased and adjusted the hair; on dead women they braided the hair starting at the forehead. Then they wrapped the body in a large blanket of caribou hide or wool and laid it down far out in the tundra, face up. They stacked cairns on top, to protect the body from being eaten by animals. Nevertheless, scattered human bones can be found throughout the tundra, testifying to the work of carnivores.

http://www.ansgar-walk.de/uploads/html/abriss.htm

So that claim is looking very suss. (Maybe it's pining for the fjords)  What about the other claim?

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The Vikings sailed NORTH of Greenland which is currently ice-covered


Is that also from a Christopher Monckton website dedicated to Uranus and Gaia?


don't be a dick muso.  I don't quote monkton coz he is a moron.  This was an archeological report regarding permafrost graveyards.  Facts don't evaporate because an internet link isn't given any more than facts disappear because the consensus is to believe otherwise.
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Re: Michael Mann's hockey stick - misleading the world
Reply #47 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 9:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
don't be a dick muso.  I don't quote monkton coz he is a moron.  This was an archeological report regarding permafrost graveyards.  Facts don't evaporate because an internet link isn't given any more than facts disappear because the consensus is to believe otherwise.


(Highlighted) Sorry. I've been speaking to Ajax too much. I know that you have more sense than believe Monckton.

If they were Inuit graveyards in the permafrost,  they were probably surface or near surface graves. I doubt if they were in Northern Greenland, but I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong. You need to provide a link.

The Vikings never sailed North of Greenland.

Either way, although there was a localised warming of temperatures near Greenland, the current temperatures are considerably warmer than that period.

So far you haven't provided evidence to support your assertions. 

Was it this report?

http://archive.archaeology.org/online/features/greenland/

That's about Brattahlíð on the Southern tip of Greenland.
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Reply #48 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 5:47pm
 
Michael 'Hockey Stick" Mann is suing Steyn for saying the hockey stick - remember that? - was a load of bollocks. A dozen years later the justice system finally gets the case to court in DC.




"I have no difficulty standing on the truth. The truth of what I wrote, the truth about what happened at a famous American institution, the truth about this man."

"In my world, I can write something, Mr Simberg can write something, and Mr Mann can write something – and you're free to read all or none, and decide what weight to attach to all or none. But, in Mr Mann's world, there's his take – and everyone else has to be hockey-sticked into submission and silence."

"He's a classic example of the guy who can dish it out but can't take it."

"'Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize' – that's a direct quote from the then Director of the Nobel Institute in Norway, Geir Lundestad... He's not a Nobel Prize recipient. A decade after he was told to cut it out by the actual winner of the Nobel prize, [Mann] continues to promote one of the most brazen of scientific frauds – that he is of the same rank as Albert Einstein, Marie Curie, Francis Crick or my fellow Canadian Sir Frederick Banting, the discoverer of insulin and its use in treating diabetes. How big a fraud do you have to be to keeping putting yourself up there with Einstein and Sir Frederick and Madam Curie when the Nobel Institute itself has told you you're not?"

"I play the ball, not the man." (Mark then quoted Eleanor Roosevelt, "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people," to drive home the point.)

https://www.steynonline.com/14029/injustice-anywhere-is-a-threat-to-justice

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Reply #49 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 5:53pm
 
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Reply #50 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 6:19pm
 
I thought Monk was banned from Environment?
You should report him Bobby, for breaking the ban.
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Reply #51 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 6:21pm
 
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Reply #52 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 6:34pm
 
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Mann's proxies and weightings. The size of the dot is the weightings given. And such a large set of proxies. Wink

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Re: Michael Mann's hockey stick - misleading the world
Reply #53 - Jan 19th, 2024 at 6:54pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
I thought Monk was banned from Environment?
You should report him Bobby, for breaking the ban.


Yes I should dob him in but I won't.

You see I once posted by mistake at his MRB while I was banned.
Monk dobbed me in to Vic and I got banned from the entire forum for one week.

I want to show that I'm a better man than Monk and not so petty and vindictive -
but -
he better not do it again.


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Re: Michael Mann's hockey stick - misleading the world
Reply #54 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 6:13am
 
After I forgave Monk -
instead of thanking me - he started a whole new thread denigrating me with lies:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1705656784

He must surely have ASPD.
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Reply #55 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 5:22pm
 
You're weak as piss Bobby.
No wonder no-one takes you seriously.
Monk bends you over time and again and makes you his bi_tch!
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Re: Michael Mann's hockey stick - misleading the world
Reply #56 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 9:25pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 5:22pm:
You're weak as piss Bobby.
No wonder no-one takes you seriously.
Monk bends you over time and again and makes you his bi_tch!



No - I'm not petty and vindictive like many other people on this site.


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Reply #57 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 9:29pm
 
You just enjoy their company instead.
Its an attention thing, eh? Wink
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Reply #58 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 9:31pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 9:29pm:
You just enjoy their company instead.
Its an attention thing, eh? Wink



Actually I probably would.
Every day before logging on to here I have to
wonder what lies Monk has said about me now.   Grin

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Reply #59 - Jan 20th, 2024 at 9:47pm
 
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Wasn't that about 1980 ?

Some may never get over it.
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